[Music] you're live now hey thank you thank you adrian uh this meeting is called to order the animal services center of the messiah valley board of directors in thursday uh september 24 2020 at 9 00 a.m excuse me the time is actually not 9 00 am right now but and i i have a i have a very strange uh screen okay so it's approximately 905 um a.m uh are there any changes to the agenda madam chair we need to make determination or you need to make a uh the roll call yes ma'am no thank you mr thank you mr dollahan um commissioner ellens oh commissioner ellen uh genie quintero uh i just unmuted okay commissioner ellens is here uh genie quintero president david dalahan is president councillor beta stevie president commissioner manny sanchez president uh counselor and chair flores president uh you have quorum adam uh thank you mr dalahan so move to are there any changes to the agenda if done we'll move to the approval of the agenda solo do i have a second a move by commissioner ellens and seconded by uh councillor beta stevie calling the role uh commissioner ellens yes councillor beta stewie yes commissioner sanchez yes uh chair flores yes motion carries 4-0 the minutes um may have a motion to approve the minutes from the regular asl ascmv board meeting held august 27 2020 this is commissioner sanchez i'll move approval second it's been moved by uh commissioner sanchez and second by commissioner allen's to approve the agenda commissioners are on top of our game this morning uh it was to approve the minutes of august 27th so calling the role uh commissioner ellens yes councillor beta stevie yes commissioner sanchez yes chair flores yes motion carries a 4-0 reports and uh presentations i'm going to madam chair this is david allen i'm going to stop sharing the screen so the aco aco staff from both the city and the county can share their screen with for their reports okay mary lou are you going first oh there we are david is uh yvonne not present i'm here oh okay i didn't see a picture i don't oh i know why there i have my bar there i am there you are okay mary lou you were muted can everybody see the screen that i have up yes okay good so i'll go ahead and start with our august report um going into our calls for service for august um our dispatch calls were 611 calls for service we had 109 self-initiated calls with 17 assist calls which gave us a total of a grand total of calls that we assisted or responded to for animal control and co or just animal control not codes um for the month of august and of course at the bottom they're broken down by district and that's districts by the sheriff's department districts then we go back into the animals picked up and impounded at the animal services center of the messiah valley where there was 195 animals that were impounded at the animal services center um and of course they're um by districts at the bottom and then of course the geo districts are an explanation of what they are at the bottom and so it'll give you an explanation of what there are cats or dogs owners surrender stray animals stray dogs sick or injured welfare holds and then of course bite quarantines it'll give you an explanation of that at the bottom total animals picked up because not everything goes to the shelter by districts or 234 animals and of course district 1 two three all the way up to seven so it'll give you an explanation of what the most traffic is in those districts so of course three and four two those are the most high traffic areas for the more for the month of august then the return to owner um we successfully returned 40 animals back to their owner we scan for microchips 254 or 252 um and that kind of gives you a pie of looking at that were those go back to that screen very the 252 were those animals that did not have microchips or is it a combination of that and not being able to find the owner that's like that's a combination either some of them had microchips um some of them don't sometimes people ask us to just come and scan an animal maybe they're holding that animal and they found it and they're going to continue holding on to it especially now with cobed not everything goes into the shelter um sometimes you know we just find one and we'll scan it we'll get it back to the owner and sometimes they won't have a microchip at all so let's accommodate all of those and then our bike calls um we had 13 exposure bites to humans six exposure bites to other animals we had rabies four rabies submissions that actually went to albuquerque for a rabies testing um they were all negative thank god we had um out of the the bite exposures to humans we had six of those um the animals that were current on the rabies vaccinations there were six of them were current then the quarantines we had one quarantine of the animal services center four at the courthole facility one was quarantined at their own veterinary clinic six did a home quarantine and then seven of them were gone on arrival meaning the officer got there and there there's no animal to be found or maybe the person got bit at night and you know called us and the animal was gone nobody could find the animal um we had owner releases we had 18 owner releases and so these are the reason for the animals that were on a release we had 11 of them that were too aggressive so the owners no longer wanted them we had four of them that they no longer could care for and couldn't handle the dog two of them were moving and couldn't keep the dog and then one of them that the dog was very old and had some medical issues and then the court cases for octo for august we had seven cases that went to court in august out of those seven cases they had eight charges so that that was about thirty and a half hours of regular time of our officers times and then it also included about eight eleven hours of overtime hours so that means the officer had to come in on their day off to go to court for some of these cases that came out to two cases were dismissed for compliance five of them got continued and one of them had a guilty um with a two hundred dollar fine what was the guilty finding for um the guilty uh let me see if it's got i i don't i didn't write that down on here i could go back and check and see which one that one was for um but i didn't write that down i can check let me know later on okay and so this is like added information from a couple of other um reports that that was requested of what type of charges they were we had two of the citations were animal cruelty type charges three of them were restraint animal restraint um two of them were population control meaning they don't have any um they're not spayed or neutered or they don't have any intact permits for that and then one of them was a rabies vaccination type charge i don't have any updated anything on the spay and neuter program as of right now because of the covet issues and they're getting everything back together so we'll have some more updated information on that real soon as soon as that gets updated and for that i'll stand for any questions are there any questions if not thank you very much for your uh presentation mary lou thank you i always enjoy hearing your reports thank you uh next on the agenda would be our city officer good morning madam chair good morning good morning my name is gino jimenez i am the animal control supervisor for the city of las cruces i will present to you my august report so for the month of august 2020 we responded to 384 reported strays of those 176 were goa meaning the officer did not have contact with that animal we were able to apprehend 208 strays 176 of those were impounded at the animal service center 81 of them were dogs and 95 were cats we were successful in field rtoing 32 animals we were unsuccessful and filled rto in 10. so that gives us a total of 42 identifiable animals or identified animals so here is a chart of our three-year comparison for strays and you can see for obvious reasons since february or march our numbers have really really gone down um this is a good trend for us you know for the reasons that it's going down is not good but we like what the direction that this is going hey gino yes sir i'm sorry to interrupt i don't know if anybody else have the same problem but i don't see your presentation yeah gino i i see i just see you speaking i don't either sorry i should have said something early yeah i i didn't either and i just didn't want to say anything [Music] decision not to ask it says that i'm sharing it um we we see it now okay would you like to go back to the beginning so you can or or rather we see one of your screens you need to go back to the powerpoint um it's your main screen geno it's not the powerpoint screen if you launch powerpoint down at the bottom we should be able to see it right there now is it visible no uh gino what you probably want to do is stop sharing and then share screen again and then once it came up for a second once you'll see the windows look for the window that has your powerpoint and select that one how about now is it still my main screen no we're good yeah we can see your presentation or i can let me go back to the beginning then huh something is going wrong here let me fix it is it visible now no yes now it is can everybody see it then because i'm having issues over here sorry about that i can see it we we see the uh the slideshow like for the presenter part of it where we see your slide and then the next slide well well i think if you were to go into this i don't know if you see that but i think if you go into the display settings right i i'm trying to stop sharing so that i can start re-sharing again welcome to the new reality i apologize for this it this wasn't like this last time so welcome to my world gina you're good now gene anything that can't go wrong does go wrong you're good now okay so there you see my introduction screen then yes very good okay i love the logo all right this is where we were does anybody need me to go back to where we were so that you can see it on the slides the powerpoint okay presents a problem no if you can do it without that all over sure please no here we are this is my first slide okay so these are the numbers um i'm sure everybody heard it but i'll give you a chance to look at the graph and to look at the actual numbers i apologize for that no need to apologize so here is our three-year comparison for our reported strays again you know we like the trend where where this direction is going um the reasons behind it aren't that great but hopefully when this is all said and done and we can continue this trend that would be awesome here is our three-year comparison for field rtos um you'll see that last year we had a tremendous dip from the previous year and for this year but uh our numbers seem to be leveling out for this year we're getting a lot more failed rtos than we did last year so this is a slide for the reasons that we were unable to field rto animals out in the field five because there was no contact by phone or at the residence three because the microchip was not registered and or updated uh two because the owner passed away and there was no other information left for who would be willing to be responsible for those animals and one uh there was no response through pet found pet registry the officer actually waited for 25 minutes on hold and they never responded back to him the next slide is the reasons for owner releasing animals we had one sick cat one sick dog we had four aggressive dogs one actually attacked the owner and his son and we had three for bites uh one bit the owner's daughter so they no longer wanted that animal that dog and here is the map i know it's blurry um this is just a screenshot of the map i will try to share that again so that we can uh look at it so can everybody see the map yes very good thank you so this is the actual map of our august impounds you'll see that the blue dots represent dogs and the orange dots represent cats and the red represent other if there is a particular area that you would like to have me zoom in on i am able to do that here and of course like i said in the last meeting this is available on the clc web page it is a read only but anybody is able to actually manipulate the screen just like i do but again it's only read only madam chair hi yes uh councillor beta stewie thank you uh may please have um sir jimenez uh look into it's on district two and right around the locust area and i know we had some cat issues near there but it looks today and i just want to make sure that we haven't had perhaps any calls about cats in that area that we had a problem with last month was it a particular address ma'am um no it's just the general area i was just seeing if there was any um cat call uh calls for cats um in the that general zone and it doesn't look like there was and i probably need glasses which is why i needed to be brought in a little bit more i madame chair councillor stevie i can zoom in a little bit tighter if you'd like me to um yeah that seems to be okay i'm not seeing any of um it was right around kent i believe oh yeah and so i'm not issues no as a matter of fact that area i think um we took care of the stray cats in that area however if you look at district three you see these dots right where my cursor is you continue to get a lot of um calls for service in that area and this was almost last month wow were you able to pick up and i'm sorry madam chair of course of course thank you um were you able to uh grab any or of the cats in that area where they all gone have we or you know it's a colony if it's one particular cat that keeps hanging out in the area i'm adam tara remember uh stewie if you look are you talking about this specific one that i have highlighted okay yeah these are actual ones that we impounded these are one yes ma'am so if i can zoom in a little bit more and then i can click on that dot it tells you exactly what we picked up from that area okay it doesn't tell me which officer did it but you can see that it was a gray and white cat that was impounded excuse me um i edited it on the ninth but the date of collection was the 20th of august okay the time 12 o'clock a.m is just a generic uh time to fill in thank you you're welcome chair those are all the questions i have for now and thank you counselor thank you madam chair if i may oh yes i'm sorry i don't have the uh participants of us for some reason so please uh forgive me for not uh recognizing you yes uh mayor pro tem thank you thanks gino um and mary lou for the the presentation i wanted to ask because i know that it's been an issue before it's along the same lines as cancer a better study is in um concert vasquez's area i know we had seen an increase in feral cats and lots of lots of issues i wondered if you could tell month to month if that has changed and improved and maybe reasons if it has improved what that might might be madam chair um mayo protein gandera um if you look at my map there is relatively no change month to month um cs some months maybe a little bit lower some months maybe a little bit higher but overall um we have the same call volume in every district uh throughout the city i know that uh councillor vasquez was having some concerns about the cats in his district and those that one that i highlighted earlier for um counselors uh stewie is actually in his district so there right in this area right here is where for no better words a hot spot for uh feral cats um here is another one in his district right at the border um and you can tell because if you zoom in just a little bit more when it the the map is out all the way it just shows one dot but if you zoom in a little bit more you can see that there was the clusters yes so like on this one right here there's two and then if i can takes it a second to catch up right here is another one with two um but this one is the most the one that's most concerning um because just from this far out you can see that there's a cluster of about nine for just last month so gino in in that in that instance one as a animal um holds person um do you do you do do you reach out like to um um maybe educating the community or reaching out to other service providers to say look we're having some hot spots here can you help us is there a registered colony i i realize you know that that has sunsetted but i mean what what do you do in terms of preventing or reducing it eradicating the issue well right now uh madame chair uh mayor protego um because there are no registered colonies right now that did sunset like you said um so there are no permitted colonies in the city right now what we done what we have done is we will go talk to the people in this area you can see that this is an apartment complex so what may be one of the issues is that the cats are attracted to the dumpster the ease of the food that's been discarded makes it easy for the cats to to come and eat there because the majority of these are unwanted cats that have no home so they're fending for themselves the easiest and best place to get food for these cats to survive on their own is from these dumpsters what i have started to do is keep a track of these and what i am going to do is reach out to um frank bryce at the humane society of southern new mexico to see if maybe they can assist in getting these cats um um you're tipped yes ma'am spade uh okay okay i hope that answers your question it does gino and if if you can report back next month in regards to what transpired from those conversations and if we could see i think it important not only to monitor but also to um speak to us more in a macro sense about the work that you've been trying to do to reduce that so we can see a more significant not only encounter vasquez's district but in the rest of our district districts um and um maybe we need to do you know and this is to clean educate you know an educational campaign and forming you know landlords and especially apartment companies sort of the problems that we're having um i just think it's one of those things that we have to not only just do one thing but collectively we have to write all the groups that are animal advocates to include you know you all that are obviously managing and up um keeping up the the law the ordinances if you will like what can we do to work together um and i'm asking also the advocates out there groups right to if recommending that they spend some time um with which they do so much work i'm not suggesting they're not but maybe collectively we have or um you know some discussions about how we manage that and try to reduce it absolutely thank you thank you thanks thank you madam chair this is commissioner sanchez uh yes commissioner sanchez um gino i'm just wondering is there a i know you particularly you you looked at this um all these cats in this particular district but um and they're around and i think it's a it's an interesting point that you bring up around having the uh the the dumpster do you see that across other parts of the of the city or that just seems to be just one hot spot uh mr sanchez in this particular case it's just this one hotspot but if let me look at this other district because as we were speaking i saw that there was some more over here so if you look in district 1 uh i'm sorry district 4. there seems to have been three in in this these this neighborhood alone and they look to be about you know four or five uh homes away this is a mobile home community so not and i'm not trying to belittle or put anybody down but um it is my experience that in mobile home communities there's a quick turnaround a lot of homes get uh vacated and then within a month or two they get another residence to rent or move into that home so while the first resident may have left a cat behind because they didn't want to take it with them now the second resident comes in and says well i don't want it and because we're complaint driven we'll we'll go out and try to remove that cap from there um that's our my experience with mobile home communities but there's not one other than that spot in councillor district councillor vazquez's district last month there was not really a hot spot um here is another one in district four that shows four um that could be considered like i say you know and i use that term hot spot maybe i should set a number of five or more um but there was a cluster of four in this one no i think it's interesting and and you know even recalling specific like that i don't know that it has to be a certain number just i'm just curious um and the reason i ask is i you know you mentioned having to work you know working with the animal service center for education and i'm just wondering you know if you see these types of things um you know similar themes repeat and and if there's things that that can we can do um you know to make sure that those are you know if you're seeing it because of uh open or maybe maybe residents are aren't doing you know um closing a trash container properly or you know those types of things that we can reach out and have those those discussions that try to you know especially if they're seeing a recurrent issue that we're just working with them to educate them that that might be one thing they can do to help minimize um you know what the issues are seeing with stray animals um madam chair commissioner sanchez absolutely because that's one of the talks that my officers have out in the field if they see that they're continuing to catch cats around dumpsters is that they will go and educate the property owner to say please advise your residents close the lid secure it a little bit better whatever it takes so that we're not they don't have that resource to go to and we're not continually picking them up from that dumpster area yes sir okay no i appreciate it like i said it's just an interesting point because i don't um that you're able to you're able to zone you know i love i love the map i love what you've done with this and i think it's interesting when we have these discussions because you you you're able to isolate some of these areas and then the recall of you know what you're particularly seeing in certain areas so i really appreciate this thank you sir thank you with that madam chair i have that was the end of my presentation i thank you thank you so much officer jimenez um are there any further questions from the board okay again thank you very very much for your presentation it's always enjoyable to learn about our little cr uh yes mr uh commissioner allens um merlot do we have any feral cat colonies outside of the city that we're aware of hello mary lou you're muted sorry i thought i wasn't i didn't think i was muted not that i'm aware of um we don't i don't know of any feral cat colonies now i'm sure there are some out there i just don't know where they're at um you know but i don't know where their answer all right thank you thank you commissioner and thank you mary lou if there aren't any further questions um may we move on to our uh next item which is the uh shelter stats and activities statistics and activities by clint backer director clint thacker good morning i just need to figure out how to get my video back up there you go all right can the presentation be seen yes yes sir okay thank you all very much today september 24th we're going to be reviewing the numbers for august uh 2020 numbers the current animal count at the animal center is 365 broken down by dogs of 193 and cats at 172 that is quite a bit lower than 2019 we're at 9.72 the intake for the dogs 2020 versus 2019 again 571 for 2020 in 2019 is 1060. so half of our population which is a great thing the dogs and cats are both considerably lower than it was in 2019 [Music] and again these for those that are watching they don't know these lower numbers are because we requested from animal control the city and the county to uh not be taking in any animals that don't really need to come to the center so only sick aggressive injured these types of animals that need to be removed from the public and come into the center so we can care for them and take care of them are coming in chair yes commissioners on facebook there are a number of animal channels and i continually read about people who are finding animals and they're going to take them to the shelter and they're perfectly good animals are we accepting them no we're not if they are healthy we're not accepting those animals either individuals are encouraged to put to go on walks with if it's a dog go on walks with it if it's a cat uh go for a walk without the cat uh look for anything that might you know lost people posting lost uh they're encouraged to put on found they're encouraged to post on facebook all these different like you said there's these different facebook places that they could post of found animals uh in the recent presentation i was in they said that an animal was found or when it was redeemed it was found that the owner was within a mile of where the animal was found lost so the owners statistically are very close to where these people are found or where these people are finding the animals so we encourage them just to go out and do a little bit of work it's i like this because it's placing more response like community responsibility on um on the community instead of relying just on the center where in in all reality in our stats show that bringing an animal here to the center is not the best place for your for your healthy stray animal so okay thank you so our returns and those animals that were adopted and then brought back to us we had two dogs in august returned one was destructive and the other one was aggressive with humans our outcomes always an interesting slide we have 121 adoptions reclaims is 48 rescued 144. community cats 31 were released back euthanasia was 110 and that that equal to 19.3 percent of our overall intake which led us to a live release trade is 75 percent uh remember as as we do percentages the lower number of animals coming in the more that percentage can fluctuate greatly so i'm very proud of our team that even though we have half the numbers coming in we're still getting that same live release rate so yes commissioner allen's glenn i assume that that 19 figure is because we're taking in or limiting take-ins to injured severely injured animals that probably won't make it yes and and also medical yeah and that's included in my presentation this time was a request that's coming up next for euthanasia reasons and also life release rate percentages as well okay thank you so this was requested by the board last time of our euthanasia reasons as you can see the yellow is dogs and the orange is cats and the gray is wildlife so our number one reason for cats for euthanasia is feral these are animals that are most likely because the city does not or nobody in the city has a registered colony that they um they need to be euthanized there's no outsource for them so those are euthanized and then the next is for medical issues there for dogs a neuron is medical or respiratory signs for those animals these are animals that the tx means they're treated so they've been under medical treatment they're not responding and we need to move these out and we make the difficult decisions and move these animals out so others can come and take their place some other high points that we're seeing medical for cats is too young that they just they have a hard time thriving when they're brought in we've started a campaign that i hope to continue and be more aggressive on is is just to leave kittens alone if people as you can see from this graph if people bring young kittens without a mom into the center their mortality rate is incredibly high so just because you don't see a mom there doesn't mean that she's not there they often leave their kittens so they can go and eat and find nutrition that way also find more better places to have kittens and take them there so we're urging individuals just to leave them be and it's the same thing that el paso is doing and i got the idea from others throughout the country that are doing the same facebook messaging was a breakdown another one requested by the board uh last board meeting and it was it was really looking at our sick and injured in our euthanasia of what was done and then it was also requested as what would our live release rate be without having to euthanize the sick and the injured that were coming to us specifically because of this and so it would be 84.7 percent is what bernice found there uh those are some totals broken down for you of and it is pretty much the same slide that we're looking at but with the total of of the animals that were done so again the hot spot or the highest one is those uh feral cats that are coming in there's 40 there just alone i don't care yes commissioner ellens when under the medical respiratory what does tx mean that means treatment that means they've gotten under treatment and they didn't respond to treatment so you'll see about three more down from that it says non-tx that's non-treatment so they were just so far gone that we did not we just decided not to try treating them we euthanized them for that so but but the tx means you tried to treat them but it didn't succeed correct okay thank you commissioner uh director uh becker what um i just so behavior timid uh was euthanized a dog what why would a timid why would someone why would why would a timid dog be euthanized what what are the problems there that timid could be a number of things um the thing underneath it is timid fear biter so that's a specific reason because you know that the animals have a fight or flight um response yeah thank you fight or flight response and so that's more specific but timid could be anything besides that they cower in the corner um they're it's just not a very highly adoptable thing and when we're looking at the amount of space that we have or we don't want to get back into warehousing animals like we were before then this is unfortunately a decision that we have to make where not highly or not adoptable rescues i mean these are animals that have already gone through rescues choosing them and they don't want them so it's hard decisions we have to make all the way around heartbreaking thank you that's kind of sad yeah yes it is okay madam chair this commissioner sanchez yes yes commissioner sanchez i i just i just wanted to tell mr thucker i i i think it's very interesting to take a look at the data and seeing where we're at and where you're um outside of the medical issues that like you're saying here that uh it's interesting to see what the data shows and i appreciate you taking that the time to pull together this information for us yes yes thank you thank you clint our chair uh yes uh commissioner alex clint we you had some parvo non-treatments there and do we not try to uh attack the parvo or do we just assume it's non-treatable we we do an incredible job with our parvo dogs that come down with clinical signs of it um often times they come to us from the public with parvo and if it's too far gone or too far down the way our veterinarian says that we can't even try um for that so yeah those again the non-treatment means that they're so far gone in the virus that has attacked them that there's not really a reason to try but otherwise we try to cure the problem yes yes sir okay and we're very successful at it as well so visitors again 622 is compared to the outstanding incredible number of 2973 in august again remember that we are doing appointments only during this covert time only two people allowed at a time so and they have to have the animals selected that they want to view before they even step into the building so it's a very much slimmed down and more of a pinpoint attack rather than the spread out shotgun approach we were doing before so the 622 is actually a really good number that we have there uh yes mr allen when does that result in more adoptions because we're targeting yeah it's a hard one to say because on the slides going back we had less adoptions this month than we did as you can see in 2019 however we also had a lot more animals available for adoption back in 2019 twice as many so i would like to do a percentage comparison of that and and see where we're at but looking at just the numbers you'd say wow yeah that is a lot less however the staff's time is a lot better used because we're not walking individuals through and people and then people aren't saying okay well thank you very much and then they leave like they're doing before when our staff walks somebody through they've already id'd the animal they want to look at and they're already interested in adopting that animal so we're able to it's again it's much more exact process a lot less time is wasted all right i've tried to figure out how to track the animals on facebook i will call you and you'll walk me through it yeah you need to go to our website facebook won't let you do it you got to go to our our ascmv.org oh okay i thought it was a facebook pro [Music] thank you mr allen's and and thank you clint um yeah i too had a similar question i think that um without doing the actual math on it you can see that the percentage is going to be much higher in so far as the adoption ratio vis-a-vis the drop-ins so it almost seems that those 2 000 plus visitors were almost like taking the field trip or something and you know well let's go visit you know let's that that gives us something to do today uh yeah it really it was yeah it was it was families coming um and they would they would put we had a section on there that says how many in your party and they would mark everybody down yeah so now it's limited to the two that are coming yeah the ones who are serious about adopting so i think the ratio is going to be higher and as you stated far more efficient in so far as um staff is uh how it's used thank you thank you for that so the next slide is something that was also requested by the board and it was a great idea our total website views in august was 43 421. so bernice and i are mind-boggled about this and we we asked our wilson binkley contact who does our website explain and it was explained that this is not website views this is page views so somebody will come to the website and and the first page they see is a view and if they click on to see a dog that's another view if they click on to see another dog that's another view if they go to a page and look at maybe you know our annual stats that's another view so one person may be responsible for 10 15 different views if they look at 10 15 dogs that is why that number is so high however that it's still a really high number which is really good we're getting a lot of page views um for the animals and people it shows that people are going to our website to view the animals and not only for what was adopting or what they can adopt but also to find their lost animal which is what we want we want them id before they come to the center [Music] so our tunnel facebook view is this one's different we had 2591 between august 5th and september 1st and it has to be that that weird date set because of the way facebook does there um does their numbers recording we're not sure why but it doesn't go by first and the first but that's a really good number people are looking at what we're posting and we're looking at continue to improve that number um by doing our radio ads are starting up on the 21st they've started it's right now is for our drive-through clinic and then after that after the 28th it's going to be starting on just the center and it talks about a good professional being responsible pet owner and it has a guy on there that it's like it's like dude you adopted this pet you need to take responsibility for it go get shots and go get it neutered so it's a great great message so in conclusion i want to remind you all that we're doing the annual drive-through vaccine clinic it's going to be on sunday september 27th 9 to 1 pm we're going to be at the tail shower 12 parking lot a special thanks to allen theater group that's letting us use their building it's right next to the old uh kmart that's there so we're gonna go around kmart and then the back of the building back of the theater and then come around the front where we'll do our vaccines and microchipping and then they can exit there on the main road so we are excited for this one we've learned a lot from our last two if you remember we did over a thousand vaccines at our last one that was at the stadium at nmsu parking lot so we're looking to do that if not more this was interesting i pulled our staff wondering if people would be inter or workers would be interested in going i thought they wouldn't due to covet and those precautions but everybody was astounding yes let's do it all of us we're going to be in our proper garb or ppe there's no protection we're going to have face masks we're doing a little bit different we're not going to be reaching in the car we're going to have all dogs need to be required to be on a leash and then we're going to pull the cot the dog out we're going to give it its vaccine and then we're going to give the leash back to its owner and the owner responsible to getting the dog back in we're not doing cats so we don't have the exposure of having to reach in and put all of our body into the cars and we also don't have a safe contained place to do cats at because for some reason cats don't like to be stuck with needles as much as dogs do so they have a tendency to react a little bit and so we need a safe place for that and we don't have it right now so we're not allowing cats in but a leash dog and masks are required social distancing so that's our presentation thank you very much i'll entertain any questions and thank you mr thacker for your presentation any questions for clint madam chair madame yes uh yes uh beethoven council a bigger student thank you and thank you clint for uh oh all this information i did as you were talking i wrote quite a few questions down um during this time so we're going back to the beginning still with some of these under your numbers for one of the dogs that was returned and it was labeled um it was returned due to aggressive nature um was this a dog do we know that had any sort of issues beforehand that was reported um if it was i would have to find out which animal it is and get back to you on that would you like that that would be great thank you and then um another one very similar to commissioner ellen's um do do we treat green worm i know that one is can be it can take a long while to treat um we've unfortunately had i always say we had the worst possible case of ringworm to ever happen to a family or animal and took a very long time and everybody was on medication including the adults so i know that it can be very difficult but um is that something that we are trying to do at all or yes we do we treat very aggressively on wing ringworm we used to be getting it like crazy from the public animals coming in with you know round spots of hairless areas and tipsy ears and things and um it's died down significantly but we we still get it and then the chemical that we chose to clean with specifically kills ringworm we chose that for a reason too and it even has a higher concentrate that we can use to be more aggressive towards being worm so we have a special ring worm ring worm ward try saying that 10 times fast and so these animals do have where they're still available for adoption even when they're in this a lot of people think that ringworm is this horrible thing that is a worm that crawls in and does horrible things to you it's just the fungus common athletes foot uh can can kill it it's just a matter of being vigilant and applying it and yeah doing all that so but yes we do and so for the four um medical um euthanasias that we had for ringworm here was it just were they too far gone then with the reward yeah ringworm can can also get to the point where um well i don't know if it's a case i'd have to look into the specifics on those but i can tell you that sometimes we get so many ringworm animals that we need to make space for those so we have to make the tough decisions about this one's really really bad and do we euthanize this bad one so we can get this one that's not so bad better so i'm sure that's what those four are but i can look into those two okay um and just looking into processes and everything as you said um technically on one end we are much lower on our intakes right now and our status in um in the shelter which is really good and we want to see those lower numbers um but we are having these conversations still about making those tough decisions on um having to euthanize for space so if you can talk to me about how we're doing that balance since we do have those lower numbers at the shelter are we giving you know extra days um you know during this time or what what does that process look like it's a great question um counselor and we are continually looking at the value of care what type of medical care is this animal going to be able to get from us versus um another animal that is does not need that medical care so we continue to look we continue to look at that it's an everyday unfortunately process that we have to go through do we this animal is very sick we've tried the different treatments do we continue to house this animal yes we may have space we may have a available kennel but do we continue to house it when i can fit two more animals one and you know where it came from and one in the other kennel where we're gonna we're gonna put where we're going to put the animal i think our cattle managers assistant managers do an excellent job of making those calls they include our veterinarian when they have to make those unfortunate calls to euthanize those animals we are currently not euthanizing any healthy animal this is for space and and not even healthy animals period there's always a reason why whether it be aggression or sickness or injury so it's it's a tough one i hope that answers your question yeah partly um you know and like i said i know this is a really this is as a personal person i i say i wish we didn't have to do any of at all but i understand you know when we talk about it as a as doing best care for either the animals others we have to really look at all those factors yeah and so with that in mind as we're in taking more sick animals high needs perhaps those that have had some sort of behavioral issue um and there are the ones at the shelter how does that look like for adoptions um because i i would assume that these might be animals that have a higher perhaps percentage or issue with perhaps being returned because of people don't necessarily understand those true perhaps care needs or like we saw if there's aggressive issues um they think they can handle it and maybe you know they can't do training right away um so how does that look because i do worry just a wee bit that as we have more special need animals they are going to be um harder to adopt i think to a lot of families that's a great question again i the i think the rescues that we work with do an excellent job incredible job of taking these animals that are higher risk like this um you'll see the apa action program for animals is the local group they do incredible by taking a lot of our our small kittens the ones that have upper respiratory issues they also take a lot of the of our dogs that have the same summer aggression some is like food aggression very very easily it sounds a lot worse than it is that can be done we had a veterinarian just last week from east loman step up and say um we saw a dog on your facebook and we'd like to not only pay for for the surgeries or the care it's going to need excuse me but they also were going to foster it for us for a while so a lot of these animals that you're seeing coming up are being taken care of i would say that our low intake and if you look at the slide that's on there i mean we're looking we're talking single digits for all these animals that are coming in that we're euthanizing and that is just incredible they're able to do that fantastic thank you and you know just as we go through i just think we have to communicate very clearly to um the public or anybody interested in one of these animals about um you know if it is a medical issue what that entails um or you know if they have a behavioral issue just to make that focus owner very very aware of what the true responsibility of this animal might be and so that we avoid any of those returns yes thank you thank you and thank you madam chair on mute madam chair um thank you very much uh counselor beta stubby thank you clint for your thorough replies there were excellent questions uh tessa and commissioner allens clint on the drive by vaccination program um how are you advertising it and secondly is there any way for you to measure the expected response so we're advertising via radio that started on the 21st and it's on those radio stations there's four of them um that we presented to you last quarter or last meeting on the media plan uh there also went out on facebook it's on dog cruises it's on our facebook and it's being spread everywhere to all by all these people that are sharing it and liking it and then we also have animal control officers the city was given some flyers so they're gonna be passing them out and recommending individuals who don't have the vaccines when they stop and talk to them here's a flyer this is a great place to do it i mean ten dollars a vaccine you can't beat that and then to gauge the response we the first one we did two years ago um we i was about a year ago now that we totally underestimated the city of las cruces um we had a poor location um and we had to turn people away the second one we're much more prepared we did not run out of vaccines we had to turn people away because it was the end of the of the clinic and it was a great response again this one we're expecting the same is i can't really gauge just by doing media and things like that it's mostly just from experience and like i said last time we did over a thousand vaccines so we're looking to do the same for that and so in combat that we have more staff that's going to be working it and we also expanded a little bit the the lines will move better more more flow to what we hope and presumably we're doing the same depth of pr this time as we did the last two times yes we are all of our pr were mentioning it i know our pet of the week went out and she mentioned it whether they decide to play it or not that's something different but um i know the radio stations i listen to they do they treat us really well and mention this all the time so all right thank you thank you commissioner and thank you director um becker [Music] are there any further are there any other questions for for mr thacker thank you again uh next is the committee reports uh finance mr dalahan madam chair david dalon for the record i'm going to turn it over to josh saffel who is one of the city attorneys and josh some of you will know he was our former accountant he had never left the city he just didn't work for animal service center so we're glad to have josh back and that's pretty much we're only going to cover financials this month we didn't have any discussion um at the finance committee other than going over the monthly financials thank you madam chair thank you good morning madam chair members of the board my name is josh saffel and on behalf of the finance department of the city of las cruces i'd like to present the unaudited financials for august 2020. so if we go to our first page we're looking at our statement of net position and we see in the general fund we had cash of six hundred and forty five thousand sixty five dollars uh total receivables of 89 541 which gave us total assets of 734 000. we had liabilities of 64 374. uh revenues collected in advance from several grants of thousand seven hundred and fifty that left us with an unassigned fund balance of six hundred and eighteen thousand four hundred and eighty two dollars in the general fund uh the capital projects fund we have cash of thirty one thousand five sixty five that is made up of uh two contra contributions one is for the stern cat room that's still remaining balance of three thousand dollars and then there was uh 28 000 that was transferred from the general fund at the end of last year that's still in that fund and then we had in the capital assets fund we have total capital assets net of depreciation of two hundred twenty three thousand nine hundred and eighty nine i don't chair uh yes commissioner uh ellens yeah i'm i've never quite understood why revenues collected in advance is a liability could you explain that uh the re the reason why revenues collected in advance is considered a liability is because we've collected the revenue but we have a responsibility to perform certain actions to expend it a certain way if we don't expend it that way then the money has to be returned so we consider a liability until the expenditures actually occur in line with the grant okay so that's grant money for a specific purpose thank you commissioner and thank you mr saffle you may proceed thank you were you thrown off by the question no not at all i just wanted to make sure there wasn't anything else um so we moved to our next page change in net position for all phones in the general fund we see we have total revenues of 749 thousand six hundred and fifty five dollars and total expenditures of three hundred and six thousand six hundred and seventy three dollars so we had a positive net change to our fund balance of four hundred and forty two thousand nine hundred and eighty two dollars and uh neither neither of the other two funds had any activity uh through august looking at the budget to actual change in net position our total revenues of 749 000 we're at 22.3 percent of the budget and our total expenditures of 306 000 we're at 9.3 percent our budget parameter is 16.67 so we notice that the majority of expenditures were under that the only one that was above was all other expenditures at 22.4 and that's due to insurance premiums being paid in advance okay now we look at our revenues and expenditures our trend graph uh we see the first month of course we had that that um 22 percent uh donation from the city in the in the county to provide for cash flow after that we see that the revenue has dropped to where uh revenue is only 188 000 and expenses 183 000 so they're almost equal but revenue is slightly higher at this time then we look at our percentage of total expenditures total expenditures again were 306 673 of that personnel expenses made up 77 percent of that number services made up 14 of that number and insurance made up five percent with uh supplies at three percent and other at one percent are there any questions are there any questions i don't see any i can't see the hands does anyone have his or her hand raised well thank you very much mr schaffel very concise and to the point thank you is that your cat was that your cat on there no that was the pet of the week oh pet of the week gracias okay thank you so uh next is the committee reports excuse me uh the executive committee report and that would be me and we actually covered everything in this meeting that we discussed um we we met uh i believe it was last friday and uh uh commissioner allen's commissioner sanchez um director clint thacker and i and uh there are um i i think the only thing that clint didn't cover in today's meeting is that uh he he uh he he talked about the adoption he he reviewed or reported today on the adoptions on the online viewing and he repeated reported the facebook numbers um that were requested at the last board meeting and um he also uh said that the uh the report on the lobby is being re excuse me yeah the report is to the lobby uh the stats of lobbies that it's being arranged so by the end of october um there will be a cra a crash contractor that will be contracted um to have it all re-arranged uh mr thacker is there anything else you want to add in so far as [Music] or is there anything to report insofar as a new veterinarian or anything is there anything in process in that regard all of our job vacancies we met on tuesday the managers did and discussed our multiple job vacancies we have we are moving forward with posting those and hopefully they'll be filled here within the next month okay and there's nothing else to report in that regard i don't think so at this time okay i agree and thank you um oh but uh mr thacker you did you have sent a request to all the veterinarians area and so far as the opening for the veterinarian yes and we have we had another veterinarian that is interested in doing it yes and we're talking about doing surgeries for our foster to adopt and foster animals so we have one that's currently signed on everything is looking great we've had our first surgery date with them was last week um we still have some wrinkles to you know to kind of to iron out as as always and then another veterinarian contacted us last week and would like to be doing it so we're following up with them this week so great yes great news thank you so much for reporting that and uh next is the um facilities uh report thank you madam chair cassandra for the record um we met um first thursday of the month and it just feels like eons ago so clint you're gonna have to help me but um we spoke of um the renovation where we were at i think we saw issues with some um window panes um that need to be corrected um i know that clint had conversations with um the actual the person in charge um the the manager um yeah thank you yes and and um they've come up with some suggestions i think in terms of clint help me i'm sorry i i went looking for my notes and i'm like struggling this morning sorry you're fine it's back in our observation room we have a frame that has a window where the moisture is built up so the seal in between the two pieces of glass have actually gone bad so there's moisture in there our veterinarian would like that replaced for a good reason so we had a contract on the contractor come out and do a bid the bid stated that we're gonna have to remove the it's in a cement metal frame um so it was a lot of it was over um i want to say like 3 500 somewhere in there for them to do that so we got another quote from another contractor and they came in a little bit lower and they also had a better idea of how to fix that metal frame than just removing it and putting a new one in so we've submitted both quotes to eric eric martin is the facilities director for the city because it is a city building is the reason why we're working with that so yeah we hope to move forward on that thanks clint um and just an update on um the new the new building um things are rocking and rolling um in terms of right clint we're in in um in step uh with deadlines for design yes we actually had like uh two weeks ago we had this was right after our meeting of course and this is what chair flores was saying cheryl on the floor is that the main lobby we wanted we moved things a little bit to get more room in the front counter area for our staff and so the architects did a great job of hearing our requests they shifted some walls and so we just need to get those done into the final construction plans and we hope to be going out to bid here in the next month or so you clint's fabulous we're so excited about the new facility and just to let people know um you go on our website on our geo bond projects there's a dashboard you can see exactly where every project is at and and follow it um specifically specific to the animal services board thanks for covering me today and carrying me clint i appreciate it i'll do better and taking better notes and knowing where to to go for those notes you did fantastic thank you mayor pro tem gandala you did great um so i have a question yes uh commissioner ellen uh mayor pro tem i have to apologize i didn't attend the meeting because i forgot about it all right next first thursday of the month 8 30. oh i had a calendar i just didn't like calendar that morning i hear you i know i get it i get it yeah thanks thank you everybody and thank you mayor pro tem and thank you thank you so much clint for um for being on top of everything i know that as far as our new facility goes we're definitely under time you know where it's moving beautifully and quickly and part of it is driven by the fact that there are geo bonds that have to be expended by a certain date and um and i was wondering about the artwork you know the public art i haven't um the uh city art board uh hadn't been meeting because of uh there were and then there was a change in the chair there and everything like that but hadn't been meeting and then when it did meet um i was when i was out of country so um is there any do either one of you know anything about that about how that's coming along we do have a percentage of the actual construction that has to go towards uh artwork there's been no real plans yet that i know of uh discussed about what specific we're going to have but i look forward to doing so okay yeah so there's a certain percentage and i remember um i can't remember the amount but it it's it's it's it's sizable enough to do some really beautiful work and i know that i attended meetings i did attend the meetings where uh there was just in-depth discussion as to the location and then what the fire excuse me what the department would uh what the center would want um because these discussions were also held with the fire department because of the new facility going up on valley uh the new uh fire station so um anyway um thank you so much mayor pro tem and and thank you mr thacker follower yes how was the artist selected uh mr chairman madam ellens chair i speak to that yes thank you thank you uh david i i know that it comes from the well go on please proceed because i assume it's sort of like a bid process it is through it is through a competitive uh selection process it's not really a bid we we do a call for artists to provide uh proposals to the city's art board and there's a subcommittee of the art board that usually consists of artists and staff from facilities and in the case of the animal service center it will involve animal service staff that will evaluate the proposals and then they will finalize it down to a couple of two or three depending on how many we get and they will make a recommendation to the art board and then the art board makes the recommendation to the city council and the final decision resides with city council and we haven't started that process yet for any of the geo bond projects they've set aside funding and so that's what we'll do next covet has impacted us but we're just now at i think 90 construction drawing review if i remember correctly clint and so that's underway so that will lead us to the bidding process and once you have final design drawings then you can look at art pieces either in the parking lot similar to what was done in mesa or art pieces throughout the public spaces of the building or or on the site you mr dolahan and adal dalahan uh after all these years i've been mispronouncing your name david i'm so sorry um but um in the meetings for the city art board um there was thorough discussion as to that selection process i'm glad you asked commissioner owens and there was a concern about um there was a vast concern in not excluding anybody and apparently that selection process is being [Music] really looked at and revamped to assure that no artist who is interested especially our local artists uh is excluded from being part of that selection in that pool of select of selected of artists who are to be selected who is to be selected and artists who is to be selected and um and yes and and so the discussions as to um of what a kind of art would go there is absolutely wonderful and i think that clinton has sat in on some of those meetings too i recall it's been so long since we met at any rate thank you very much mr dolhan and um shall we move on to the next item it says see cfpp report is there anybody to report on that madam chair gene gilbert is on and i think bernice is going to share her screen and talk through gene you'll just need to unmute yourself um we gave you permission uh if you're unable try hitting star six on your phone to unmute did yourself see the presentation no oh yeah your name well i can see manual full screen surprise okay so i'm there it is i have it okay is gene on the line she is but she's muted yeah you told her to push uh what star six on her phone let me see if i could call it real quick one second let me try getting all over thank you while we're kind of waiting for that um bernice in her infinite wisdom she went and got me a counselor studied the form for the aggressive animal that was returned and you can hear me right i'm not just talking to myself yes no we can hear you but you might as well talk to yourself we're all falling asleep now i've done that before i was just sitting here talking and i look up and somebody else is just going at it so no no um looks like the animal was adopt or came in as a stray we didn't know anything about it and then it was adopted on the 14th august and returned on the 16th because the dog growled at her kids and then it looks like the dog is is back here at our center and is being held to go out to a rescue organization we had no former knowledge that the animal could be aggressive thank you clint i appreciate you and thank you bernice for getting that information yeah you know we we're a firm believer of of the value of three here it's three days three weeks three months and we tell all of our adopters try to have the animal in there for three days let it get used to you and your family three weeks we'll let it get used to how you go about functioning during the day and you can get used to what to expect and then three months it should be part of the family by that time and i mean two days is not near enough time for that dog to adjust to how the family works and things so i understand being a father myself and i'm sure many of us being mothers and fathers have that nervous tendencies but i really wish they would have given the dog more but the dog gets a second chance well hopefully the rescue group will take it and they'll have a good life somewhere else yes thank you thank you mr thacker madam chair i have um gene on the my speaker phone maybe you could hear her through my phone oh okay hopefully okay can you hear me yes we can hear you sounds like you can sorry for all the technical problems i seem to have this every time when i do it from home thank you oh no worries here's the list of organizations that are represented in this month's reports and groups that aren't listed will be in the october report okay if i could have the next slide please next slide thank you this is a short list of the coalition's work for august and september supporting area organization nick kahn and i both represented the coalition at the august 28th task force by zim and i met with emily muir who's the animal services volunteer coordinator earlier this month to discuss hsn's ally and education offer which is fifty dollars towards a shelter pets adoption for three participants who view the online animal stories at the humane society's website and i'll tell you more about that program next month when hsf and m is featured rick and i met rick who's the chair of the coalition and i met with star snyder and monica arvin who are animal service volunteers they do foster and they're advocates who network for shelter animals to find them homes and rescues and transporters other work of the coalition which is noted in the third and fourth bullets are ongoing and include weekly promotion of the animal services pet of the week we uh when we share the shelter's hosts we often times include input to a list of from the community i'm almost home animal i'm almost home animal rescue is based in el paso and serves this area as well out of 50 dogs transported recently on the pet pilot rescue flight that went out of las cruces coordinated by kelly barker with uncaged paws 90 of those animals mom and dog mom dogs and puppies were from diane avery who's the director of i'm almost home uh animal rescue and they also recently purchased a transport bus for their ground transport trips which they do on a weekly basis thank you next slide please alaska says dog park is located at 430 north caramosa south of the nearside center and the park reopened mid-june kevin armstrong is the president of the dog park and he reports that social distancing has been used to maintain their city parks and wrecks that does the power washing of the park intermittently while the dog park members maintain the cleanliness of the park with monthly wash downs you can see a photo of two dogs here that were playing at the park recently and in addition to the services that dog park members provide for the community maintaining the park they also advocate for individual animals like this shelter dog the sharpay mix in need of a home i hope that dog got a home okay next slide please the las cruces pet network uh randy meyer is the primary person who sends email notices uh to the large distribution list regarding animals in need like these two dogs who face relinquishment recently by their owner due to personal hardship the objective of the pet network is to help animals bypass the shelter by finding the resources they need through community efforts next slide please and this is window wax which is a program that's being launched by the donated communities united in the messiah valley time bank whereby people with dogs visit residents of care centers and other facilities with window visits this window wags announcement was sent to animal as it's caused by the pet network the next forever homes animal risk rescue is home based in alamogordo and assists animals in southern new mexico jamie jones is the last christmas representative forever homes animal rescue transported over 50 dogs during august and about as many in the month of july to rescues in new mexico arizona texas colorado and other states so far this year they have pulled 40 dogs from including these two pictures from the animal services center and assisted in finding them forever homes through rescue transport foster and adoption madam chair at yes mr ellens genie does that transport include air transport or is that just land transport in the yes here you'll see um a slide on on page pause they are the ones that do the flight for the animals and you guys have a breakdown of the different flights and transport by uncaged paws in your in the board member practices there have been quite a few slides and quite a few animals transported out that way so far this year which i think is truly remarkable yeah thank you okay safe haven uh animal sanctuary held a virtual fundraiser recently featuring a couple talented musicians and in addition to these efforts uh safe haven operates a popular thrift store here in town that generates revenue to support their sanctuary which is located on the east mesa pitcher is chiquita who was adopted recently and she is one of 13 animals who found homes this year through safe haven adoption program next slide please this is a spay neuter action program and pictured in the center is julie miller she's the president of snap with snap staff member sue daily to the front and rachel snow is pictured at the back for july 25th through september the 16th snap issued 187 spay neuter vouchers to area residents with beds and they sent 527 applications with the phone interviews they conducted a breakdown in the voucher and application numbers by city and county are provided in your packets and this information we're very grateful for was all supplied by julie naylor next slide please mr ellens you were asking about flights well here this is the slide now that we're going to address air air air transport for animals and this is uncaged paws pictured center left is kelly barker who is the director of uncaged paws and diane avery is pictured right she's the director of i'm almost home animal rescue and they are pictured here with volunteers offloading animals from their respective organizations for this was an august 28th flight with pets pilot rescues that went out of the las cruces airport over 170 animals had been transported by air for august and september up to today's date to kelly barker's uncaged paws efforts el paso animal services and diane avery with i'm almost home through all their efforts which is i said earlier i think it's truly remarkable more information on these slides is provided in your packets and there will be a couple more upcoming flights perhaps there's more than two but the two that i know about are being coordinated by uncaged paws and they're scheduled one is scheduled for this monday uh september the 28th and another one is scheduled for october the 5th and just one more slide today september the 24th is remember me thursday and it's a day when the entire world will share the importance of pet adoption and shine a light on all orphan animals that are waiting in shelters and rescues and in 2017 people who use this hashtag remember me thursday and posted this on facebook and various media nearly 330 million people were reached pictured as actor jenny garth who is this year's spokesperson for remember me thursday and have been past celebrities for this occasion which have included jackson galaxy who hosts the tv program on animal planet and is a renowned expert on sea lions the coalition is encouraging everyone to get the word out about remember me thursday and promote adoption of rescue animals from our shelter and area rescue groups at the end of the coalition's presentation does anyone have any questions are there any questions for uh jane yes madam chair uh yes uh councillor bay de stewie thank you thank you gene for um showing off and telling us of all these amazing groups i had a couple questions in regards to the um programming that takes the dogs um to walk in front of the i guess the congregate settings and i don't know if we can go back to that slide i guess i'm not sure what you're wrapping windows the window wags lost christmas window wags and that was slide six it looked like and so is this um is this programming does it does it walk um is it in neighborhoods is it by the congregate settings like um you know the the nursing homes oh this one window wags i see what you mean yes you know i don't know that is fully launched yet and i am in the process of finding out because i've referred therapized people and different uh animal advocates for it but yes it would be you know here that you see in the cartoon that people have their heads out the window no that won't happen the people will be behind the window and people will come up to the window and it's my understanding and be places like good sam and various other uh care centers here in las vegas okay so i i take it they're still working out the details on um i think they are and i need to follow up and find out thank you for asking okay and just you know and good sam is in my area we know that it's been one of the hardest impacted um congregate settings in the area and so i know on one hand i said oh this would be wonderful um to kind of lift up spirits um and i also just want to make sure that everybody's taking all of those um precaution safety precautions very seriously when they're even on those properties um just because there's it's just as such a high risk group absolutely and i know that they'll be coordinating it with the different centers and we'll be following their protocols and even afterwards they'll be social distancing even if there's uh i don't know how many pet owners with their dogs they're going to be distanced and so it won't be any um group uh getting the groups getting together fantastic and good and bad things you know with uh your line of work i mean um the the reality is you're having to go and interact with different people um at perhaps a higher level than some get when you transport and handle animals you're having to get very close together so you know i hope everybody's taking care stay and everything so thank you and thank you madam chair and thank you councillor vega snooby thank you thank you miss gilbert thank you so much for your presentation and for all the work you do thank you and i want to thank mr guzman for helping me so i could use the speakerphone thanks again you're welcome bye-bye so our um [Music] next item on the agenda is discussion items yes i'm sorry oh who is it cassandra it is mayor protest it's mayor pro tem cassandra yes um i just wanted to add a little more about um the program from um community action donaiana community united i have to start like that to remember it um and [Music] i i think it important to bring carrie bachmann in to speak about the program i've i've um i'm very encouraged with the time baking program in in lots of different ways and if you're not familiar with the time banking program and don't belong to the time banking program you should reach out we should probably have a presentation but this is a time banking program is sort of an international um um component to many um third world countries that barter sort of their talents treasures with one another and they keep the time they keep the hours and um and so when photographer because i'm not very good at it but i i do um painting really well i can barter the time against it so i i think being able to um do this that with the congregate care i think is um facilities and or the i'm not sure if these are folks but i see that as a win-win and something that i'd like to see um further presentation on but i wasn't sure if council surveyed the studio completely aware of what daku did um as part of our covid um and so i think it'd be helpful to have a presentation in the future about about that particular program and how we can support it i think it's a great idea that'd be great maybe we can have her early next year because we have to talk excuse me we have to talk about our meetings in november and december and they fall on holidays i just i ran up to look at the calendar because somehow i don't anyway so um are there any so i finally have my participants up are there i don't see any hands up so unless uh i think that uh mayor pro tem gandala mentioned something about uh counselor beta stubia addressing something or madam chair if i may we need to stay on topic on the discussion items and then public input and then chair and board comments huh so yeah okay so yes um we are on discussion items and um [Music] so i see i see what you're saying so um the comment that um the suggestion that mayor pro tem aganda i made um should have been under item seven which is uh chair and board comments correct would that have been appropriate there yes ma'am but we we can just move on with the agenda let's move on with the agenda and um the agenda item five is discussion items a november and december board meeting dates thank you ma'am sure uh club packer executive director yes on the agenda bernice and i noticed that it was november falls on the 27th which is or i'm sorry the 26th which is the day before it is i'm sorry it is thanksgiving and then the next month december it falls on the 24th which is christmas eve so we would probably like to entertain we move them to the week before not the week after because it's new year's eve in december for the week after so that probably wouldn't work so it would be december 17th is the week before and november 19th is the week before november that might present a problem for a lot of us who have a zillion things on our calendars um and i know that weeks three and four are heavily scheduled for me and presumably for other counselors and other people who participate in this meeting how feasible would that be do you have any idea mr dolahan say that again madam chair can you repeat your question again sorry i hadn't the question would be uh this the recommendation or suggestion that uh mr thacker has made that um our november meetings be moved to the the third thursday of the month as opposed to the standing fourth you can do that i i was looking at my calendar and i i have them on that date for november 19th and 17th of december um on my calendar um i think we just need minute action today if that's the date well we understand that madam chair if i may yes yeah i think it's um trying to align all of our schedules mr dolan and that that particular thursday we may possibly have a south central solid waste authority board meeting i'm not sure mr ellens commissioner ellen's do we have that i have it in on my calendar but not sure what they've been doing them so sporadically not sure if that's going to happen or [Music] not and if we wanted to we could do it late i think south central meets in the morning we could do an afternoon meeting on the afternoon i have the airport advisory board at 12 30. [Music] on the 19th of november and then excuse me mr ellens [Music] then on the 17th uh yeah i it's that's my standing meeting in the afternoon not a chair uh yes mr ellens wednesdays seem to be a day with fewer meetings in general so instead of doing it on the thursdays in november december why don't we just do it on the wednesdays that still gives the finance committee adequate time forward well i i know that my december 16 calendar is full and then my that's our econ development prc correct i'm talking about december 23rd and november 25th um [Music] you're talking about oh the you know about tuesday wednesday before the usual thursday which would be november 25th and december 23rd how does that look on everybody else's schedule for those two days or do they look like their days that are maybe impinging on travel to be with family or having made plans to do otherwise i mean i don't know those are busy that's a really busy week i mean those days before holidays are but i i'll defer to i i you know i i might be out of town in december quite frankly and for the city councillors on the meeting we try to cancel the work session that week of the week of thanksgiving and the week of christmas so that you have time to travel and visit family if you should so choose um because we're about half staff those weeks anyway because a lot of people take time off between the two holidays um so that week's generally tough and we we give you the monday off for that reason great thank you for that information mr dolan uh madam chair uh yes uh councillor beta stevie um would this be for it's november the 25th or is november the 23rd um commissioner ellens was proposing november 25th the wednesday and december 23rd the wednesday before what would be the uh a regular holiday um okay thank you mr dolahan um if it's in the morning then that's acceptable in the afternoon i am chairing the quality of life prcs for both days on that one and [Music] yeah on the 23rd yeah both of those times well um um the 19th in the afternoon on november when are you available how about november 19th in the afternoon instead of the morning that's acceptable on november 19th actually uh november 19th on my calendar it is uh tentatively here it it's probably on all of our calendars at this point as tentative um i have the airport advisory happen um what were you recommending um mayor pro tem on the 18th in the morning 17th afternoon november 17th yes november 17 is sorry november 19th in the afternoon and december 17th in the afternoon okay 19 is not available for me because of the airport advisory um wait wait wait but we how long do you meet we after that okay it meets uh from um 12 30 till about 2 30. yeah oh so we could meet in late afternoon uh-huh that's what i'm proposing okay something like three o'clock uh-huh or three o'clock yeah yeah okay so the next meeting is there a consensus on that is everyone going to be available at this point i'm sorry uh november uh thursday november 19 at what time did you propose uh three o'clock yes mayor okay i'm good with that okay is everyone else uh commissioner sanchez yeah uh madam chair i think i can i can do that i have a meeting until i think about the same time 2 30. i should be able to do three o'clock yeah yeah okay and uh counselor beta stevie yes that works thank you okay great so um okay that pretty much covers all of us i think so let's um move on to december and does anyone have a proposed date for well would we be in the same situation then just to move it to december 17 at 3 pm that sounds like a good move okay i have a downtown parking committee at four so i'll have to slip out but do my best to be here as long as i can okay madam sure what date was that in december uh december 17 at what time uh it would be at 3 p.m okay so we'd be moving both meetings um up a week uh earlier and then in the afternoon and in the afternoon at 3 p.m yes okay i'm good with that one okay wonderful so that's uh all right great good okay so next is public input do we have anybody online or on the phone to uh for public input do we have any of that information adrian or mr dolan madam chair there's no members of the public on as attendees all everyone today is a panelist and i don't see any hands raised okay and madam chair i've received no emails either oh thank you thank you mr thank you okay so we'll move on to that being the case we'll move on to item seven which is chair and board comments so we'll begin with um let me look at my little list here well let's see mr donahue let's go down the list madam chair the only item i have is for the group the is for the board members is that it is september so we normally do miss we complete mr thacker's evaluation in november and that is coordinated by myself with the vice chair which is commissioner sanchez i can get the form out to everyone and then start working on dates for a closed meeting as to when you want to do that discussion and evaluation the evaluation we asked mr thacker to do a self-evaluation that he shares with the group and then we share with you the evaluation form along with his self-evaluation and then commissioner sanchez and i coordinate that with our human resources office and a closed meeting for you to discuss generally we do that in october after the regular meeting and then we do another one in [Music] november to finalize that but november we might have to do some other date then thursday the 19th um for closed sessions but i can if if you're comfortable i can just coordinate that with commissioner sanchez because absolutely that's the vice chair's responsibility okay and then as far as the um closed meeting goes you would just uh work on everybody's calendars or that would you yes i'll try to get it as close to the same day as we normally would meet i think in october i would do it after the regular meeting and then november we'll have to work out another date okay great that's it madam chair thank you thank you mr dolan and next would be um lynn lynn mr ellens do you have any comments no i think i've wasted enough time with you guys today do you wasted it with us okay you didn't waste our time with us okay great okay thank you for that comment um moving on um jean do you have any comments no i have no comments thank you and thank you thank you very much uh next is mayor pro tem yeah just want to reiterate that if we have um changed our platform a little bit through the city of las cruces to include the public and i'd like for us to work on maybe some detailed instructions about that just letting you know that that you're able to attend these meetings and how that looks i wasn't sure if we had informed the public related to animal services center board i'd like to see that and then just the presentation um related to daku's new program and thirdly i'm just encouraging the animal advocate programs to help us come to the table with some solutions about the feral cat um situation and i i would encourage us to have a dialogue in our las cruces our city task force i think that's an important and important one where we can go over the maps and look at strategies and yes we did have a very robust conversation about the cat colonies registrations those things in terms of what we were going to present as part of our new ordinance um to the council but i i really feel like this is something that needs to be be discussed um thoroughly and maybe then decide and develop an educational campaign as well i i think that covid um has been very difficult for everybody but it certainly has for the animals and the service center and those folks that work there's a some deep challenges but it also has reduced our population greatly so you're really i think in terms of what this the center is supposed to really be for it it's it's working but it's certainly highlighting the the issues that we have right and the barriers and so and the data is pretty clear so we should really as this board look at that and then develop some strategies campaigns those kinds of things to really affect change in a in a positive way thank you madam chair and thank you very much mayor pro kim okay um commissioner uh sanchez no i'm good like then i just uh really like i mentioned earlier i appreciated all the data that uh that was done by mr thacker and the and the team so um otherwise that's it i'm looking forward to seeing you all again in october great wonderful is there anyone else on the board that i've missed that who isn't maybe on the participants list sometimes there's a counselor beta stewie oh i'm so sorry let me see that's all right thank you let me see if you're really on here otherwise i can't call it i'm sorry it's just that the thing got stuck anyway uh yes uh counselor aveda student no thank you madam chair um and thank you mayor pro tem i'll be following up with your suggestions as well and other than that that's all i have thank you great thank you i don't care yes i do have one other thing to chatter about xenia i know that you present your figures pursuant to the sheriff's districts is there any way we can do what the city is doing and also present the animal pickups or complaints pursuant to commissioner districts we can add the commissioner districts to the sheriff's districts um it's going to be a little bit different of course um if that will help we can add the commissioner districts to those districts absolutely because when i look at the way we're doing it i've got a little bit of district one i got a little bit of district four and i got a little bit of some other district and it's difficult to figure out what the activity actually is in my district yeah that's how they're reported through the 911 center that's the geo district how they are reported so that's how we get them through central dispatch that's why we report them that way but we can overlay them on a map and actually tell which is the the commissioner district if that'll help um for the reporting for you all um we can surely do that now to map it like geno has a mapping system um i don't think we'll be able to do that we would have to get with our gis department and look at something to see what we could do on that aspect i'm not sure what all that entailed on gino's part i'd have to get with him and see okay we'll do your best thank you thank you mr ellens and thank you again mary lou are there any other [Music] comments okay if not this meeting is adjourned thank you thank you thank you [Music] you