[Music] good morning everybody it's 8 30 on wednesday december 15th 2021 we'll call this board of directors meeting for the animal service center of the messiah valley to order if you wouldn't mind joining me in the pledge of allegiance please i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands one nation under god indivisible with liberty and justice for all and if i can get a roll call please remember enriquez is absent is absent for member ellen's absent board member flores president board member mcmahon president board member gandara here for member abeitus duve here chair sanchez present that we'll call let's see we do have a quorum are there any changes to the agenda no there are no changes to the agenda if i can get a motion and a second to approve the agenda please so moved by flores second aveda stuffy so we have a motion by councillor florida is seconded by vice chairman stevie to approve the agenda is there any comments on the board okay can i get a roll call please board member for letters yes man yes yes chairperson sanchez yes we have our agenda okay we're moving on to agenda item number four which is the reading of the closed meeting statement for november 29th 2021. the animal services center of the messiah valley board of directors met in close session at 11 25 a.m on monday november 29 2021 in attendance work was commissioner uh lynn allen's assistant county manager mcmahon reister abeitus tuvi mayor pro-tem gandera and councillor flores joined at 11 32 a.m and i joined the meeting at uh 12 i think 1205. sorry my notes here 1205 pm the only matter discussed during the closed session was the annual performance review of the executive director clint thacker and the meeting adjourned at 12 30 p.m okay so we're now on to the approval of the minutes agenda item 5a from the regular ascmv board meeting held on november 29th 2021. if i can get a motion and a second on those to approve the minutes so moved by flores second i better study okay uh we have a motion that's been properly seconded is there any comments on the minutes okay can i get a roll call on the approval of the minutes from november 29th 2021. board member flores yes board member mcmahon yes board member yes board member betas duvet yes chair sanchez yes okay the meeting minutes are approved okay we're on to [Music] reports and presentations from cfpp i didn't get a response so i don't know if there's anybody in the audience for the coalition for pets and people okay we'll move on then to city and county acl reports ms moore if you don't mind kicking us off good morning mary lou ward donate county animal control let me see there's no mouse so here we go generally when someone says that statement that's a good thing oh okay we'll go ahead and go with our november reporting for donating county we had 261 reported stray animals for the month of november we picked up 190 of those stray animals 68 of those were cats and 122 were dogs in addition we also picked up nine sick or injured animals three of those were cats and six of those were dogs we also had 11 owner surrender animals and all of those were dogs if you look at our four-year comparison chart you can see on the reported strays how that compares to the years prior for that i'll leave that up there for just a second and then i'll go to the next next chart that's a four-year comparison on our return to to owner in the field last month we returned 38 animals in the field compared to the month before which was 40. so that's a four-year comparison as well and then here's the additional animals we had two welfare holds we didn't have any neglect or abuse we had shelter quarantines that were six home quarantines were zero zero our courthold facility our courthole facility is actually undergoing a major uplift right now we are getting the floors redone and then we had six rabies submissions those were all negative i keep leaving these up here for reference i think it's important to leave it up here because even i need to go back to it myself and look at it so i think that's good to leave up there and then if you look at it as you divide it into the districts eight in district one which was three da three cats and eight dogs district two was thirty three was thirty 32. our district 4 was 44. 5 was 36 was 12 and of course district 7 was 34 so you can definitely see where our hot spot areas are which is like district 4. you can definitely go back and see that and then looking at it as cats picked up by districts it'll just divide it even further and show you a comparison for this year how it looks on the stray animals that were picked up by cats in those districts and then here we go with the same thing with dogs as we looked at the districts and how many we picked up so you can see our district um four for this year on dogs how that how that pans out for the dogs we picked up 28 in that district alone and then our reason for owner release we had four that were aggressive two that were dangerous one they couldn't care for the animal two that were sick or injured one person was moving they couldn't care they couldn't take it with them and one they just simply said they had no time for the dog and with that i'll stand for questions thank you miss work are there any questions for miss ward counselor flores thank you mr chair uh thank you uh ms ward um as far as i saw that the january 21 strays were the highest number across the board and is there is it uh people returning their christmas gifts on the return owners or the the strays oh well just the chart that uh i think it was you know keep scroll down so i can see the where it was it wasn't that chart it was uh that one the stray cats i think no no the dogs better than the dogs yeah the yes that that one right there mr ward it seems like when you look across the board it looks like that seems to be about the highest month so the highest month on this one if you look at may that big tower on the in the middle that would be may um would be the highest um for that one if you look at that and that would be um in district four that was going to be me for that that was 48 animals in that district or 46 i mean oh okay but so is there any correlative data that can be attributed to that um i would have to go back and do some research to see what was going on in that on that particular month in time and see what was going on mother's day gifts i don't know it mean because it seems like it seems well it's just that january stood out to me it's the second highest actually yeah well i think maybe it's starting to march april it starts getting warmer in may and that's when more activities starting to to come out thank you mr ward thank you for watching thank you mr chair thank you councillor flores are there any other questions for miss ward okay okay thank you miss shandrickas and i apologize to calling out i don't know if you were planning did you want to join us on the dais or did you i didn't know when if you were going to be part of our group today or not sorry to put you on the spot i just wanted seeing you out there i just didn't know if if you were going to be able to join us or i mean it's up to you you being part of the board you're definitely your input is is good okay we'll move on to the city acl reports good morning good morning mr chairman members of the board um i'm officer salagueta uh standing in for gino jimenez he's still on leave i'll probably leave on leave for the next month or so so good morning yes let's see here where sorry where's my expansion where is my expansion there it is thank you sorry about that no worries too early in the morning good morning so um i'm here to present you the monthly stats for the month of november um our first set here is a reported stray animals that we had so we had a total of 456 um stray animals that were reported for and i apologize this is uh october for the month of uh november so we had a total of 196 animals ever gone on arrival on the stray animals i apprehended it says 229 i'm going to adjust that and correct that to 260 stray animals apprehended total of 211 strays that were impounded at the shelter 111 dogs and then it would be 100 straight cats that were impounded 41 of those were successful field returns eight of those were unsuccessful attempted field returns for a total of 49 identified identifiable animals moving on to the next slide um so we total of reported strays for this month uh we had 456 animals as compared to 414 from the previous year and then 462 from october so the three-year field archieol comparison um we had for this for the month of november 41 as compared to uh 30 from the year before in 34 from the previous year so we had quite a few i think we had quite a few um owner releases this month i'm not entirely sure what that was attributed to but i think that these numbers were a little more than the previous months so we had one that was uh only released for aggression towards people and other dogs we had one that was a dog that was returned or only released for old age and then we had a one that was only released to us because the owner could not have the pit bull within the mobile home park and then we had one that was owner released to us before a for a bite we had three dogs that were returned to us because the owners were unable to care for we had a another one that also was only released to us because it bit the owner's son and then we had two more that were released because the owners could not care for them um six six dogs that were only released to us because they were aggressive towards the owners or other people around the household so the unable to field return dogs that we had in animals we had salmon that we were unable to make contact with the owners and then one that the owner was at work and could not pick up their animal that's it do you guys have any questions for me do we have any questions on the report okay doesn't look like it awesome thank you very much thank you nope sorry about that i'll leave it at this thanks okay i was looks like we had a before we move on to the shelter statistics and activities um it looks like there was a confusion on our coalition for pets and people presentation with if there's no opposition from the board i'd like to go back to that we have a representative from the dona ana county humane society that's here to provide a presentation thank you so much sorry you're right and i'm my apologies for that that's okay i heard coalition for pets and people and i thought someone from their organization was going to present but thank you so much for your time my name is april anaya and i am the executive director of the dona ana county humane society i joined the organization in october of 2019 and as most animal welfare organizations we do a lot with a little um i was the sole employee up until this june we actually hired a part-time office coordinator so now there's there's a couple of us there um holding down the fort we do have a board of directors comprised of nine community members as well and just as we go through i'm going to give you a little synopsis of our work but our motto is keeping people and pets together and i just kind of wanted to show you a little bit of how we do that the history of the dona ana county humane society some of you in this room probably know it better than i do we used to be the shelter so we were founded in 1955 and in 2008 when the city and county took over shelter operations through the ascmv docks as we're known um kept the 501c3 and it was dormant for a bit until the board decided what they wanted to do there was a there was a brief time when you could tell the organization didn't quite know what they wanted to be when they grew up but they did keep the 501c3 to kind of evaluate the community's needs we currently operate three community programs our largest program is the animal relief fund when we were no longer operating the shelter there was a huge need in the community for financially under-resourced pet owners who couldn't pay those vet bills emergencies came up dogs cats hit by cars surgeries etc so the board saw a need to kind of create a program to provide vet care vouchers for those financially under-resourced pet parents we qualify clients using the hud income guidelines so using those guidelines if families qualify based on number of people in the residence and household income they'll complete an application submit copies of their proof of income pay a 50 copay that's payable to us and submit a photo of their pet clients can qualify for this program once a year based on on date of service and there's different voucher types that the animal relief fund provides the most popular is a vet care voucher that's good for up to 250 towards those vet treatment costs a lot of times pet owners will go to the vet and it costs more than 250 so in those instances they'll able to qualify for one additional voucher so a maximum of five hundred dollars towards those vet care bills second is our vaccination voucher that's to keep pets healthy that's good for up to fifty dollars towards vaccination costs that's our only voucher that does not require a co-payment and that's good once a year as well um we do see pets that unfortunately aren't a lot of long-term meds right now a lot of insulin meds seizure meds that end up costing a lot out of pocket for pet owners so for those families they're able to qualify for a long-term medication voucher that's good for up to 750 dollars towards those medication costs over a six-month period and when that voucher expires they're able to qualify for a new one we're very fortunate that all vets in the county partner with us on this program 2020 was of course um a year like no other for for all organizations we were considered essential because we did provide assistance for those emergency vet visits so we stayed open through the remainder of we didn't get to shut down during the pandemic during 2020 of course we saw a lot of people who lost their jobs a lot of loss of income so in 2020 alone we issued over 69 000 in assistance through the program 195 vouchers um so far in 2021 the numbers has gone down a bit we've issued 207 vouchers a little over 59 000 in assistance our second program um we love dearly it's the rough to ready program and that's one that we actually partner with ascm v on as well as action programs for animals this is for dogs that have been recently adopted who are having issues adapting to their new homes if there's behavioral issues in the homes the last thing we want is for the dog to be returned to the shelter so we provide two training sessions in home with the new owner and the dog they can be done at home or during covet a lot of people opted for community settings such as parks and that's fine obviously the goal of the program is to ensure dogs remain with their owners and aren't returned to the shelter our third program we also partner with ascmv pets for seniors we provide a 25 discount for people age 60 and over who adopt a pet from ascmv asmv staff will send us monthly reporting and then we'll reimburse based on that report and the goal of that program is to ensure that seniors find companionship and help shelter pets find homes there's different ways we're funded obviously our largest program the animal relief fund it was actually started and funded by a planned gift someone was kind enough to leave us in their will and when we received that funding it was restricted for the care of animals so the board at the time decided to place those funds in an investment account and that's been able to sustain the program this time we also receive grant funding through petsmart charities pets for the elderly foundation recently started funding the animal relief fund program they used to fund pets for seniors but now they they fund those vet care bills for persons age 60 and over and individual donors and private family foundations also fund the program when it comes to pets for seniors and rough to ready we as an organization fund that so that's built into our budget the rough to ready training program costs approximately 156 dollars per pet and then 25 dollars per adoption through pets for seniors um while we are no longer the shelter we we like to think that a lot of the programs we do work in tandem with the shelter to to do what we all want to do and and keep people and pets together so if there's any questions thank you or is there any questions for miss anaya thank you thank you so much actually is there also a website i know you have the phone number and an email is there a website facebook that uh yes we're very we're very active on facebook and our website is also www dot d a h dot org great thank you so much and thank you for the support okay now we're on to sheltered statistics and activities god that's a shelter statistics is a mouthful in the morning mr thacker good morning board of directors clint thacker executive director of animal service center merced valley here to talk to you today about our numbers from november of 2021. uh 341 dogs and 176 cats for a total of 517 animals currently at the ascmv and that's as of yesterday our intake numbers are they're creeping up slowly but surely to the 2019 numbers which is really what we want to stay away from stay down from but as you see a total of 712 intakes that's 385 dogs and 324 cats again our transfers for rescue organizations we appreciate all that they do for us see those large numbers up there apa is always a big one for us and we have a new partner that we've done just a little bit in the past and that's the helen woodward animal center there on the right 21 dogs that was actually driven there in california so we were able to get animals there however we did have some issues with our transport vehicle on the second trip that we did where it completely broke down on the side of the road outside of tucson so we had to get it towed um and it looks like it's transmission issue so not only have we already replaced the engine in a 2015 ford transit van that's diesel we also now get to replace the transmission so we are looking into getting a new vehicle uh we're going to repair that one because it repaired we'll be able to use it just regionally around here from alamogordo deming kind of a thing and also around town for transports like to transporting our animals to the farmers market petsmart that kind of thing but we need a new vehicle so we have we're working right now with grants and also with private donors to be able to get a new vehicle for that long term transfers we still have our really our really big transfer truck that we're using so it's not our rescue program is still going still working summer returns in november dogs we had two behavior issues and then cats as you see their behavior problem and can't afford basic care as always we always talk to them and say you know what is it the why that you're returning the animal and then like they can't afford basic care we'll offer things to them that we may have like the rough to ready issues you know or the litter box training we have plenty of literature everything everything we try to do and sometimes people just don't want the animal because of that they just don't and they don't want to say why so they blame it on other things and we understand that so if somebody says i just absolutely don't want it then we will take the animal there for some reason looking in the past all the way back to 2018 november is a lower live release rate and we're trying to figure out why when we look at this this month or this yeah november of this year 70.5 2020 is 20 20. but when you get 2019 is 70.6 and then 2018 we were looking at it in our managers meeting it was 69.9 so it is a consistent percentage and we're looking at the reasons why i believe it's because the focus is turning more towards christmas and the holidays and rescues are gearing up for those because they always do a lot of adoptions and things in the in the december time but we'll continue to look at that and see why some of the highlights there though uh the community cats of course 15.2 percent of the live release rate it's gone up significantly and that kind of takes place of the euthanasia rate you see the euthanasia rate is still lower than it was in 2019 this year it was 26.3 and 33.5 before so quite a bit lower are you the nature reasons number one reason for dogs is still that respiratory and the tx you see on there means treatment was given so they're not responding to the treatment our population right now is so much that if they're not responding to the treatment then they need to be euthanized so we can allow room for the others that are coming in and then the second reason you see is behavior or aggressive and then for the cats we're looking at it's almost a tie between space behavior and space medical and what that means is is we need the space in the medical area to move more cats in so if they are any medical reasons or or behavior reasons that they have cowering in the back of the cage not friendly that type of behavior then they are euthanized and unfortunately as you saw in our previous numbers in we had the space where we could deal and hold these animals longer and get them into rescues where they have the space to do it to care for them but currently right now with our current levels we are not there our volunteer program continues to be stellar 120 volunteers is an incredible number our volunteer coordinator works really hard and going in far outreaching areas to get volunteers and also the volunteers are making a bigger presence at the ascmv they clean everything from cleaning cats to doing laundry and folding laundry to sitting at the front counter welcome people in and answering questions so a special thanks to the volunteer coordinator that does an amazing job there 457 hours is a little bit lower than what it was in october but that's a pretty decent number considering the holidays that we that we went through in november our visitors holding steady at 800 you see it kind of goes up and down a little bit since may but that's 800 is usually about the number of our appointments things allow there so this one was a little bit concerning to me and i looked at it we had 174 adoption or i'm sorry appointments for adoptions made kept the adoption appointment that was great so we had 95 percent of people coming in however only 56 percent of that 95 finalize the adoptions so we need to look at and see maybe start asking people why they're not adopting and find out those reasons so and again these numbers are without the walkthroughs on fridays and saturdays they started december 3rd so next month we'll see and those by the way are going really well the center is is busy from the hours of one to three friday and saturday uh we're gonna like i said give it a month and see if that's something that just because it's new there's you know be able to see it so we wanna make sure that's going to hold steady if we're going to open those hours a little bit more web page views again holding almost average at 33 680. again those who are watching this is not um original hits on the web page just every time somebody clicks on a say a dog to look at and then they go back and then they look at another dog that's two views so it's not a it's not original clicks coming in facebook views went down significantly was surprising especially considering all the activity we've been doing on facebook but it went down to 2257. almost the lowest looks like it's the third lowest instagram continues to go well so to snapchat uh 226 clicks on the ad from instagram and snapchat has 455 clicks and those clicks take them to the website where they can look at the adoptable animals and there's our pets of the week molly and ozzy and i'm open to any questions any questions for mr thacker the only one i had was around and i know you had mentioned particularly around the youth the euthanasia rates and the reasons um i know i want to say it was apa that i thought sometime in 2019 into 20 or so particularly looking at feral cats because you had mentioned kind of behavior of cats possibly that was one of the things leading to them being euthanized they had i thought i thought it was apa but i know one of the local partners had a program where they were trying to encourage say those in the farms that just need cats to go after mice and other rodents that they can take the feral cats i don't know if that i don't know what the outcome of that was i don't i've never seen any more advertised i don't know if that's something that the asmv could do as well but it's just i think that's one of the things that i hear especially right now in the colder months when mice in particular love to go into you know looking for shelter if that's something and then the nice thing is is that if they came from the ascmv you could guarantee that they would be spayed or neutered yes and they're guaranteed spay neuter from apa as well action program from animals and also from the ascmv it's called the barn barn cat program we participate in that as well somebody says i'm looking for just a good barn cat we can provide that with them however that kind of would fall into the community cat category and we again we have no issues right now with the community cats except for just the sheer high number of community cats that are coming in we do have to limit that just a little bit for instance since august 27th we've euthanized 27 community cats that's all within the hundreds and hundreds that we have sterilized and sent out so yeah community cats is really not the worry i see when i look at this i see the reclaims are down quite a bit and so is the rescues so those are the ones that we work on okay thank you appreciate the clinton okay very good okay we're moving on to committee reports we'll start with the finance committee mrs hendrickas yes good morning chair and board members we did not hold a finance committee meeting prior to this one but josh sasfield is here to give the financial report today good morning mr chair members of the board my name is josh saffel and on behalf of the finance department of the city of las cruces i would like to present the unaudited financials as of november 2021. starting off with our statement of net position in the general fund we had cash of 1 million 579 thousand two hundred and seventy five dollars receivables of a hundred and two thousand eight hundred and eighteen which gave us total assets one million six hundred eighty two thousand ninety three dollars we had liabilities of fifty six thousand four hundred and seventy one dollars revenue collected in advance of two hundred twenty nine thousand eight hundred and sixty nine dollars so that left us with an unassigned fund balance in the general fund of one million three hundred ninety five thousand seven hundred and fifty three dollars looking at our change in net position our total revenue was one million seven hundred and fifty eight thousand seven hundred and eighty seven dollars and our total expenditures were one million one hundred ninety thousand one hundred and fifty four dollars looking at the budget to actual we see that the total revenue of one point seven million was forty six point three percent of the budget and the total expenditures were 31.3 percent of the budget our budget parameter at this time is 41.6 so we see that the revenues are still slightly above that which is good and of course our expenditures are below that again good we also had a net positive change to the fund balance of 568 000 so far this year looking at revenues versus expenses over the course of the last five months um again just to to kind of explain the graph we see that at the very beginning of the year we have that that inflow of caches as both dona ana and and the city provide that upfront contribution and then we see it kind of uh stabilize and normalize more as to a regular amount of income and we just see some slight variation in expenses but the amounts seem to be close to one another looking at uh cost categories as a percentage of total expenditures we see of course salary being the highest at 51 i was asked to separate salary and benefits so salary and benefits are now separated out we see the benefits are at 15.6 percent services are at 16 percent supplies are at seven percent and then temporary services are at three percent insurance is at three percent capitals at two percent and then other and repairs and maintenance are both at one percent each and that will conclude my presentation i stand for any questions thank you mr saffle are there any questions on the finance report all right thank you sir okay we're on to the executive committee update which is uh myself and the only notes i mean there wasn't a whole lot of discussion really the we were looking at discussing the resolution from today the 2021-09 which is around the benefits uh and salary increases and i know at the moment um and we'll i guess we'll have to look at this one on this line item when we get to it but there's we're still awaiting some updates getting final numbers in order for the board to approve that um the other thing was is i think that led during that discussion in terms of the jpa and where we're at on that and then upcoming meetings that i know clint will be having i know with donaina county and the city so those are starting to go on and so we'll look forward as we continue to move into the new year where we kind of continue on with those jpa discussions so but that's all the updates i had for the executive committee let me move on to the facilities committee mayor pro 10 thank you mr chair yes clint and i met we talked about various things from a thermostat being broken an order was sent up to city facilities to the hvac not working in bernice and clint's office apparently there is a computer board that is not working correctly it's been a little chilly in there i think but clint says that he's there i think they're okay but apparently there needs to be a new a new unit installed and it the most unfortunate thing is it was a new unit when they installed it so i don't know what's happening there but i think they were looking at warranties and such clint do you have an update on that yes thank you clarification issues that's all right so we have the thermostat was in the kennels and that has been replaced and so we have those are all up and running and everything's nice and roasty toasty in those areas and then the computer board is the new unit that is over bernice and i's office and it's not it's it's not cold it's hot sorry in our offices no that's fine so um they put the computer board in since our meeting and it still didn't work so either the computer board that they got was bad or the compressor is an issue so we're hoping it's the computer board and not the compressor the compressor came the gentleman there was he said it would be over a thousand dollars to to replace the compressor so we're waiting to hear back on that thanks clint um we also talked about the scrubbers that need to be routinely replaced and uv bulbs i think are on order you have an update on that we're working with the manufacturer of those uv lights it's a special light that they get to order through the website and they're hard to to work with bernice can attest to that so yeah we are working on getting those replaced let's see we also talked about the insulation i have insulation oh oh oh wait wait sorry clint um we talked about um well you just gave me an update and it changed from the time can you the drains the drain yes yes yes yeah thank you clint so um there was concern that maybe the drain was plugged up um they had they had to um contract somebody to come in with the camera and that necessarily wasn't the case there's not a plug of course that's important right as as they're cleaning and making sure that the lines are flushed and blushing and for proper cleaning i think what happened it's something about the the pipe and the the positioning in the pipe and so we're assured by the individual who came out that there isn't a plug and so we're gonna keep moving moving on with that we're gonna we're gonna flow freely what it was is the we do preventive maintenance sneaking and so when the snake went down it stopped it's further than he'd ever gone before and it stopped and so he said well there's probably a clock something there is stopping it so we got a camera down in there and found that it was just the angle of the pipe was severe that it wouldn't let the snake go through the water on the camera you can see the water is just flowing freely just through so he's confident that there's no clog there and i think we talked about the population at the time there was 550 plus we talked about disease and you know distemper at being an issue um but an issue statewide i think with other facilities as well and so clint and and staff are always working towards trying to mitigate um mitigate that um we also talked about the new construction it's going well um at that time the walls the three walls were up but clint just let me know that uh last week i think thursday the silver beans the steel beams fell and so but by that point already today they're back up and secure i think clint do you want to say any more about about the new construction uh new construction yeah it's going really well those they were just the metal studs is what they were so they're thin metal and when the wind hit it just buckled some of the supports and so they they tipped over it wasn't a violent tip over it looked like it was just a nice slow easy bend and there like i said they're already up and completed i do want to mention really quick on the distemper we want to focus a lot on education so what we've done in the managers meeting we discussed having medical staff in our staff meetings once a month focus on a disease so we get so people can ask the questions that they may have we feel like we do a pretty good job of sharing that information too but we want to see what our co-workers questions they have so we're going to be doing that starting next monday or tuesday actually is when we're going to be doing our first one is on distemper because that's something that's most prevalent so hopefully that will make some headway on education training and being able to get the information for that disease out thank you that completes our facilities update thank you glenn thank you mayor bro tim mr councillor flores uh thank you i have a question for you uh clint i drove by there and saw the um it was almost collapsed the entire side was almost collapsed and my concern was and i did think well maybe we had a burst of wind and maybe we had some wind but it wasn't that strong so i was just wondering did you call the engineers you call the city did you let everybody know that either the design or the materials being used were faulty because that's what it looked like to me and i'm sorry i didn't call you i figured well it was right there if you didn't see it what's point of me calling you we were very well made aware yeah a lot of people contact us yeah and we did contact the contractor about it the the design is solid uh the reason is because they only had two or three of the beams going down from the from the the wall to the ground that were holding them up because that's really all they needed and there on the mesa i'm sure you're aware that the wind does whip along there pretty good and there was a wind advisory that night on thursday night so i don't know when you saw it but well i saw it after it happened obviously so whenever it was i was picking up some medication for edie down the street at hornada clinic and i drove by there but um i i so you did you contact the city did you contact our contractors i mean not just the contractor but the city to i mean to me it was it was really really um you know i mean i would have been calling everybody just to let them know there's just something not quite right with uh i mean it it i mean we live in las cruces everybody knows that we have the winds that come up and and wreak havoc another one is that the they're not connected the walls some of them it's just a freestanding wall so when they're all connected it will be a solid structure but at that point it was just a flat surface for that wind to grab we did address it in our geo bond meeting that we had and eric can talk about too if he wants to but it was mentioned um and being addressed okay well thank you so much clint for following up on that and taking care do you have anything to add to that yes chair and board members um thank you councillor thank you yes public works was notified immediately that is a geo bond project we do have a contractor project manager on board they were all notified it was discussed everything was brought up to speed it was even dispatched uh through mervedes and emergencies so we're definitely notified about this situation and it's been remedied so was there any explanation as to why it didn't withstand the wind no there wasn't anything other than what mr thacker has already stated uh normal operations just uh one of those gusts that came in but in the process and so they'll definitely uh be more aware of it now okay great thank you very much mr thacker and mr andrew because thank you mr chair thank you councillor flores thank you mr enriquez and thank you mr thacker okay is there any other questions comments all right then we're on to action items which we'll start with resolution 2021-09 the wage increase for the asmv personnel i know i touched on a little bit during the executive committee update but at the moment i believe we do not still do not have all of the numbers that we need at least for consideration correct i was just receiving an email just yesterday about having the information in the system and we have not had a chance to look at it so i propose that we table this until further notice when i bring it back up okay so i guess we'll need a motion at least to take action on resolution 2021-09 so we can either take it i mean we can either do it until further notice or at least or we can put it to our next meeting which i believe is the 19th of january 27th sorry i got so used to last two months meeting on wednesdays okay the 27th thank you bernice i just don't know uh mr chair if we're going to have the correct information because it's more than just the 80 20 split we also if you recall the memo that came from the budget department also stated that there were funds that needed to be secured to ultimately fund this ongoing increase when i say ongoing increase i mean that once we give them our the co-workers the salary increase it's going to have to go every year after that so i i do need some more time to be able to talk with the city and the county to possibly secure some funds or even in my budget if we're looking at making some cuts in each part each department we have to free up about sixty three thousand dollars is what we have to cover so if we have to free up some money do that that's fine but i do need some time for that and i'm afraid i don't know if i'll be there by the next january meeting okay mr chair counselor thank you mr chair uh mr uh thacker i i think that this is an important matter and uh do you work with hr or you said you have to consult with the city the county what do you mean by that and and the problem with tabling to a date uncertain is that sometimes things fall through the cracks and i think wage increases are very very important it's a very important issue and and i i think that this is something that has to be prioritized to assure that the powers you the the parties you deal with i mean i really don't know you say the pound but isn't it hr that that processes payroll and do they uh take care of that the city uh hr aren't they the ones who figure out how to move money around whatever it is you have to do i don't want to say i'm just saying flippantly move money around and i know that that that's a very terrible word in accounting i'm not an accountant but is there any way that we can keep it on calendar mr chair and mr thacker and then if we if you haven't been able if it hasn't been resolved or brought with a clear plan or presentation then we can keep keep it on calendar okay that's what i would recommend just because tabling indefinitely uh sometimes means that there's going to be no action on it i understand that and my i trust i promise you there's going to be action because i have deferred my salary from the board until my staff gets there yes i was advised yes so i promise you there's going to be some action on it because i want my increase just as bad as the individuals who really need the increase want it the hr is totally on board there they said pretty much just give us the numbers you want we need to run the model to make sure that it will run correctly so in other words it will go into paychecks correctly and and the taxes everything will work on it they're ready they're ready to go so um so what's the hold on well the board is the hold up i mean if if we want to go forward if i want to present this information and the resolution now and do a vote i'll be more than happy to but in the past it was we don't we don't have the information from that 80 20 split of the insurance and i don't know how that's going to impact the bottom line on my side when i asked that question to our budget analysis there at the center he said we have more we have more than enough salary savings not only salary savings but the fund balance projection to cover any increase we're going to get from the 80 20 split it seems to me though that the 80 20 split was already determined otherwise we wouldn't have authorized it i mean well and i think leanne is that leanne that walked in i don't know if leanne has any uh information on that but i know how much it's going to be per employee but i don't know how much how many employees are wanting it i might have some people that said the 60 40 split is was too much i don't want to have that insurance like my husband can do it or and then now with the 80 20 it's oh this is better insurance i might take it so i don't have that information of how many employees yet so leanne i'm going to jump in here anytime it seems really weird to me it seems to me that we wouldn't have approved the 80 20 if it hadn't been already determined that it was really i mean i'd be jumping for joy if you know if i had an 80 20. so chair sanchez counselor flores clint is absolutely correct what we did was as you know we used to have a 60 40 split we currently went to the state as well which did reflect a little bit of a change in the premiums which actually i think was a decrease but we're talking pennies and decrease however what because we did go from 60 40 to 80 20 we offer it to everyone to the animal service center to everyone within the city we only had i want to say in the our whole network city and jpas we only had about 10 000 i mean 1050 people that had actually wanted city insurance our anticipation is that when we opened this for anybody to enroll because it's a brand new enrollment we felt that there was going to be a lot more people that we're going to be switching over from whatever current insurance they're on to the city you know changing from maybe their spouse to you know on to the city because of this 80 20 split because it's it's we're putting more you know putting more money on the employee's paycheck so what that number or what that increase is i have not received it from hr we anticipated that it would could rise as high as from a thousand to about 1500. that's a that's a lot so hr is still doing that analysis i have not received anything from them i will reach out to joe richards who are is our hr director to try to you know see if i can get that information but they're also working on the minimum wage which will start in january as well which will affect animal service center as well so there's a lot of things that are factoring that are probably going to hit as you know i sent you a memo i'm not a big component of using salary savings for these positions because you know i really want clint to fill all of his positions so what that does is it actually increases you know using salary savings next year those increases reflect in the new budget so it needs to be a budget adjustment for for what we're saying so just passing on the information it's probably also going to include a budget adjustment for the 80 20 and also for the minimum wage that's going to hit in january and that analysis is still being conducted right now as well just letting you know as soon as ms richards and her group get this together we did hire a consultant to help us with that compression i've seen the model and he's running the numbers right now looks really good but it is going to be an a big increase well salary savings shouldn't be a salary savings i i think you're intimating that that should stay where it is to assure that there are i i do it i am as a putting my budget hat on and i'll i'll let mr enriquez comment if you'd like to i have no problem with you know if you have some salary savings using them for like a one-time purchase you have a piece of equipment that you're really needing something breaks you know the washing machine breaks you know something like that salary savings for that one time expense but not something that's perpetual year after year after year that is that is really what my concerns are and it's like a whole clint if you know if there is an increase in the budget it's this board that needs to make that decision and the salary savings is under a budget item line item and then it sits there and it does what liam it um well it you can you can request a budget adjustment he can come to the board and request a budget adjustment to use that it's not really within the city moving money from salary savings or salaries to operating is strictly a something that we have to take to mr pele the city does but as far as for clint i believe that he probably should just bring that item as a discussion item i don't think it's necessary to have a resolution to move money from you know one object code to another object code but to just let you know which he has been he has informed you that he would like to use his salary savings to increase salaries so or if he wants to use salary savings to purchase um sorry keep using your washing machine but yes i know so you know things like that so but yes ma'am it is budgeted it is in there okay but i i i still don't understand the concept of salary savings does that money just stay there indefinitely to fill or is it there just because it looks nice or i mean it looks secure and what is it securing what what's the uh what's that called what we what am i and i think counselor foreign and i don't know if this helps but it at the beginning of the year we approved a budget that includes so much to fund so many positions at the asmv yes with those fish those vacancies we're not we're not paying anybody so we have those savings and it will sit in that budget it just sits in that account yes until we decide to use it if we don't use it at the end of the year then it goes into the reserves so it goes salary uh whatever that is for unfilled hope positions yes ma'am okay and that's that's what i thought salary savings and and i agree with you that we shouldn't be using money uh maybe to take from salary savings uh that would be feeling more positions that's what salary savings is for so i agree with that but we're not filling positions anyway and that's what i'm getting at it's like what the huda and so i i you know yeah i'm flabbergasted because we hear that we hear that you know at city council all the time and and i've already had this conversation with you leanne it's like so it just looks really it's a security blanket in accounting principles or you know in the counting world of money um yeah i mean i think we all have our little you know our safety whatever you call it uh you know for a rainy day but that's not what savings uh are that it's really allocations of money for to fill positions so um and i agree with you it shouldn't be taken uh you know one time thing for a broken uh washing machine and dryer which has does happen because there's a lot of washing to do there and drying um but it just seems to me that i i think that that that there should have been a better mechanism then for this um what we're dealing with now with the 80 20. so board chair thank you and councillor flores if i can respond i i do believe that the best mechanism is that in a in a in the you know in your if you had everything that you could have clint should have all of his positions filled that's what we want correct just like i'm my own department at one time i had 14 open positions i will tell you i'm down i'm not gonna mount i got five left maybe four so there is that capability you know you just have to be on top of it i don't know what clint's re you know his um working condition is with hr however i know that we are trying to get people to apply i don't know if the county seems to have that issue as well getting people to even apply for positions has been a little difficult um i actually had a position out there and it was out there for three weeks and nobody applied so it's you know we're trying to get these filled as possible so i'll say that however again if you're going to increase salaries which i'm all for paying people for what you know is needed i we want that within the city as well however if you're going to do it i do believe that he needs to bring forward to this board a budget adjustment and and and get their permission to increase the budget because next year that way that budget can hopefully increase to the next year and can go to council and to the county commission as well thank you thank you so much leanne and thank you mr chair and thank you mr thacker thank you cancer flores and then i just just for clarification i just wanted to sorry i think just not to belabor the point but i think the the one caveat in that is assuming that clint will want to maintain that manpower or the number of positions if he does not and that then creates a i mean it's kind of an offset by taking away a couple of positions you can take those monies and use for salary increase could we not that is board chair sanchez you are absolutely correct excuse me sorry actually on the memo that i sent to the board that was one of the recommendations i do believe that it might be very necessary to do and we do this within the city as well within our own departments a resource analysis on our positions because sometimes you know positions grow sometimes you know you become more efficient and more effective that you there's positions that may need to change or we just don't need these positions anymore or we're we've got the wrong position there's a lot of this and i do believe that there is the possibility of doing some type of resource analysis to to do that to and and i think this would help clint and his whole staff as well okay so yes sir you are correct we could uh lower the number of you know he has several part-time employees you could lower that number of part-time part-time employees and you could use that for you know the additional pay um to the rest of the staff yes sir thank you i just wanted to make sure so that way we know clint i'm not trying to take away jobs for head count from you but i mean it's just i think when we look at it as a board just want to make sure that we're looking and understand where we could go if we're trying to maintain the budget or if we're going to increase the budget like i think like the ann said where we have to go to the county and the city to approve everything but that i think goes into i think the jpa discussion so yeah and i would like to uh to remind the board on the and i know that you're working on the joint powers agreement however the agreement is that you know you you bring a recommendation to the board very similar to the utility board bring a recommendation and then that budget needs to go also to the county and to the city councilors as well so i just wanted to pass it on because the budget season has begun so yep okay advice sure i made this to me thank you chair um thank you leanne i actually have one last question for you if you don't mind and thank you clint with all the different analyses that you all are doing is february a more ideal time to take all those different metrics into account or do you think our next meeting is at the end of january so board chair sanchez um counselor stewie actually i think that's too late um my understanding is and i'm working with hr because you know as you know minimum wage has to start january 1. we have a new minimum wage uh it's going from 10 50 to 11 50. yeah so there's going to be a so we need to do it also too our our premiums start january 1 as well so i would actually say that we need to get that from hr in the next week or i know it's christmas in new year's but we need to get that from hr like asap and i am working with them so i will try to put out a message to miss richards with mr enrique's help and try to see if we can get some numbers i know the board doesn't meet for another month however minimum wage will have to happen regardless of what the board that's a that's a given that's a state we have to do that just like the county has to do that as well as far as our um as far as the insurance the board has the um so the city adopted 80 20 so it just sort of goes down into what our coverage is they the jpa does state that they don't have to use our benefits okay uh they could actually go out and get their own i don't know if clint would ever want to do that that would be hardship on trying to keep up with all of that however they you do not have to adopt the 80 20. you could adopt just leaving it the 60 40. but i'm not making that recommendation um i like the 80 20 but and i think it will help us with recruitment um and help us get positions filled we're looking the city is looking very attractive okay keep looking at the county because [Laughter] we're in competition so thank you leanne i appreciate that and thank you chair thank you madam vice chair okay so i guess based off of the conversations i think then what i'll do is i'd like to have a motion to uh postpone this to a date certain to january 27th which will be our next day at cmv board meeting so moved by flores moved by councilor flotes second aveda stevie seconded by vice chair of bakerstuvi is there any discussion or input on the motion okay can we get a roll call please former enriquez yes foreign former mcmahon yes foreign member gandara yes board member aveda yes chair sanchez yes okay then we'll take this up at our next board meeting on the 27th of january okay now we're on to agenda item 7b which is resolution 2021-10 a reasonable notice of meetings for 2022. can i get a motion in a second on this resolution please for approval oh so moved moved by vice chair a bit stewie can i get a second on approval of resolution 2021-10 second by flores thank you councillor flores mr uh this is general housekeeping just letting them know of uh the meetings are gonna be happening the main points on it are the third or i'm sorry the fourth thursday of every month and nine a.m here in the chambers unless pretty much otherwise as stated the the resolution also goes through talks about emergency meetings special meetings closed meetings it's all the same information as years before basic housekeeping again okay so is there any questions on resolution 2021-10 okay and can we get a roll call please former enriquez yes for member flores yes former mcmahon yes board member gandara yes board member beta steve yes chair sanchez yes that resolution is approved okay we're on to resolution 2021-11 if we get a motion in a second to begin discussion selma moved by councillor flores second seconded by a big stupid god you guys are mvps today thank you okay clint again housekeeping resolution for our holiday closures for the ascmv it mirrors the cities and basically all governments fairly closely there are some exceptions every year for instance we are a seven day a week operation so easter is one that we're closed where the city and also the county are not closed on because they're are already closed so we have that holiday added and then we have these things called floating holidays where the the center is already is open but it falls on a day that usually we have off if that makes sense so we have two of those open days but this again mirrors most government agencies thank you clint are there any questions input on the proposed holiday schedule for 2022 i will only make the note that our resolution does need to be amended because the very bottom or do we do is that intentional that we put the winner holiday of 2021 versus that that is on purpose yes okay just wanted to make sure sorry then we're good then so if that's the case there's no input as i i i just wanted i saw it at the bottom i just wanted to make sure we just didn't forget to change that one before yeah i'm looking back at bernice just making sure okay because if i'm in my mind it does need to be changed at 2022. is that correct the reason and the reason being is i know it says here with the holidays for for christmas of 2022 but then december 26 which would be the day after kind of similar to the to the thanksgiving holiday above yeah the only yeah it needs to be changed to 2022. the only hesitation i have was we had issues with the new year's day sometimes either the year before the year after and i just wanted that's what i was going to double check before i just wanted to make sure that that's what it was or yes my apologies that should be 2022. i just copied and pasted stuff and i forgot to change that one date so yes it should be 2022. okay so in that case can i get a motion to amend resolution 2021-11 to to now read monday december 26 2022. so moved by flores moved by councillor flores second second by vice chairman to be okay so can i get a roll call on the proposed amendment board member enriquez yes is it not working it's not working that's okay there we go yes thank you board member flores yes forever mcmahon yes board gandara yes former beta steve yes chair sanchez yes okay so we have now resolution 2021-11 as amended if there's no other input then i'll ask for a roll call on the resolution as amended board member enriquez yes board member for lettuce yes former member mcmahon yes foreign yes board member beta steve yes chair sanchez yes okay all righty okay now we're on to public input there any members of the public i invite them to come up and provide their input to the ascmv board frank bryce i'm president humane society southern mexico um i would like to make a second kind of stab at us out in the field private organizations getting calls on people trying to relinquish dogs get a help with with them being referred to us by the shelter i've talked about this several times we still need to come some kind of resolution we we need to have something working issue on it i still recommend that the shelter take the lead they're the the most obvious place to do that figure out who needs to where the dog cat needs to go if they can and what kind of help can be combined from the shelter and that organization the the simple way in my opinion the shelter do the spay neuter and vaccinations and they've fostered the dog out to the or cat out to the organization to hold until they can find a proper suitable home and so i'm making that request again and i will be up here until we get something done that keeps us from refusing people who call because we don't even handle that kind of animal we don't know what's going on with it and we usually don't have the uh funds to do that on our own not as regularly as we would like to of course and then the other subject is i think much more sensitive i haven't heard anybody say anything about the incident with that child and the dogs i would like to at least have an update a report some kind of status report on what's going on with that child that got killed by the dogs i've got several different people calling me giving me different information as to who's responsible who's in involved in it and i would like to have at least a status report on what's going on i'm very concerned about it and i'm going to follow up on inspection of public records request from all the agencies that might have had something to do or some connection with that isn't it we need to be very very careful when we put dogs out in groups like that i actually have i'm fostering 19 dogs now because of the pandemic at my place i have the kennels they're locked they're wired and i feel perfectly secure in the way we do it we don't even put the animals together unless they're part of the family that's a very small group to begin with and essentially i'm the only one that goes in there with the exception of one dog that's by another organization we're trying to find a home for it but it's been specially rehabbed because of its experiences it's a nice dog i don't think it poses a danger to anybody but it's not a happy dog and we're trying to make it help get it that way but i would like at least a status report where we stand on this from the public standpoint this is a very sad situation and we can't get very good information i've got different reports from different people in different agencies and it's just not a good thing thank you thank you mr price are the other is there any other public input okay not seeing any so move on to chair and board comments are there any comments from the board nope yes thank you chair and board members i just wanted to bring the board up up to date that last week last wednesday we had a meeting with our hr director miss richards mr thacker and myself and had a meeting to discuss you know how to try to improve the hiring process and what are some options and i think we've come up with some a good game plan good idea allowing the animal service center to to kind of do their hiring such as what mervda does the las cruces will still do the posting of the hiring and help them with with a lot of the internal maybe the background and things of that nature but a lot of that would fall on the animal service center to to do a lot of their hiring and have more control over that and so i think it was a good positive meeting i think there's still some uh details to work out but uh moving in the right direction just wanted to update the board on that thank you thank you mr enriquez are there any other comments input before we move on or to adjournment i did want to remind the public or let them know that there is a nice tree at the entrance of city hall that is for the ascmv angel tree there are ornaments that have adoptable animals so if people are considering getting pets for christmas we encourage them to adopt don't shop there's plenty of animals in the animal service center if they look at the tree at the ornament there's a picture of an animal and on the back side if they're not interested in animal but they are interested in helping the animal service center there is a qr code on the back that they can be linked to the amazon wish list and they can help contribute in that way as well so just want to let the public know that that's there here at city hall right at the entrance on the right side so if you come into city hall take a look and if you can help or if you're looking for a pet appreciate your support all right so we are now uh to the end of our agenda so i'll ask for a motion and a second to adjourn please so moved second by flores thank you mayor pretend moved very pro tem second by councillor florida's uh there's no objections and we are adjourned at 9 52 a.m and thank you all very much merry christmas our next meeting will be january 27th thursday here at city hall so thank you all have a wonderful holiday you