when i won't have to leave alone about the time i won't have to say [Music] kiss me and smile for me tell me [Music] you're alive good morning welcome uh it's 901 and so we'll call the meeting to order if you would join me in the pledge of the pledge of allegiance pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states thank you um uh we do have a quorum i don't know if we need to say for the record who else present okay so we'll get started are there any changes to the agenda from from anyone none hearing none then i would entertain a motion to approve the agenda manager i'll move approval of the agenda thank you commissioner sanchez second by flores thank you councillor are we commissioners counselor councillor flores uh it's been moved and seconded can we have a vote please foreign yes board member sanchez yes for member gandara yes yes thank you board member that helps that helps me call everyone the right thing thank you [Laughter] i would entertain madam sorry i i did want to make a note i think miss ward is sitting in for uh are you sitting in for mr macias today so being that she's our third member from the county can we also have her on the record as a voting member yes absolutely she she's not an ex officer she's no she's she's taking over as county management is our third as our third member from the county okay so um board member ward yes thank you very much sorry about that thank you sorry thank you no problem i just wanted to clarify thank you so much uh okay i think we're on to the minutes i would entertain a motion so moved second kandara any any discussion or amendments to the minutes hearing none if we can have a vote please board member ward yes board member flores yes board member sanchez yes former gandara yes former koran yes thank you next up we have reports and presentations i think first are from the coalition for pets and people we have susan peterson yes please come one up if you're up for giving your presentation and please state your name for the record and and we're looking forward to hearing from you here it's um you can make the desk go down and the mic go down there you go you got it might be loud enough already um good morning good morning my name is susan peterson speak a little bit more into the mic please all right not as loud as i thought yeah thank you how's that i think that's good i think that's good thank you i can hear you but i don't think i'm the best do you have oh you don't have a presentation okay no i'm just talking it's all you that's we defer to you please go ahead susan okay um my sister deborah and i have the two hearts four paws refuge we are in radium springs and gosh we've been rescuing now most of our lives so in 2011 we decided to build a facility and so we built a we call it our barn and it's got 14 indoor outdoor kennels so then we decided we could be a real rescue and so in 2014 we got our 501c3 and so now we're a non-profit and so we started off with the bang and we've been full ever since so we do um adopt some out we've gone to petsmart for the past several years till covid but it turns out that now we're well we used to help the shelter let me say that we used to help the shelter i could pull from there and we would transport or keep them and try to adopt them but then we started taking in more strays and dogs that their owners had passed so in a way we're trying to keep the dogs out of the shelter instead of trying to you know take them there and then get them back so we have several older dogs now and so we don't have a big turnover so we can't help a lot right now we just take in some strays bad emergencies we have one dog with cancer so we're just keeping her comfortable and we have a couple that have bitten somebody and they're great dogs but a liability for adoption so we just keep them so we're actually an old an old folks home for dogs but um but we still come and take some um we have uh the ones that their owners passed we you know we'll keep them because it's traumatic for them to be adopted so we do have some that we have taken to albuquerque to the paws and stripes and they've been accepted into their program so they help veterans so that's a good thing the fact that we can't really take in a lot of dogs because we don't have a lot of movement and we don't do cats we're not set up for cats but we try to help the community so if someone needs help with vaccinations if someone needs vet help we've helped a lot of people with fed bills we've helped people spay and neuter their pets if we have any money at all then we we help the community we we've given out dog houses crates we've gone to their homes and helped the fences and the kennels and things so we're more into that kind of thing if we have extra food if someone needs dog food we'll supply that we'll supply cat food so you know that we're hoping as dogs transition we can help more with the shelter and everyone else because there's so many strays and so that's mainly what we do now we're not so much active actively saving but we will we'll keep the ones we have we have five acres and in radium springs and we have three acres that are fenced in with several yards so they're not stuck in the kennels they're out at least twice a day to play and the ones that get along they all play together so it's not a real home but it's pretty close to a home and we live there so we're there all the time so our you know we plan to help out as much as we can eventually maybe get back to petsmart doing adoptions if the covet is going to let us go so um so that's mainly what we do any questions i i i don't have any questions but i at one point you said we we aren't helping in this way but i i recognize that it takes a village and it's like what you do is really important and connecting people to resources and being a resource who just wants to help it takes a village a pretty big village and so i i just want to say how appreciative we are that you guys are are there with your own little sort of village of of critters so thank you for coming and presenting and talking about this and letting folks know and i would assume that you have a a donation page set up if you want to share your website yes we've been very fortunate with uh once we got our 501c3 with a lot of donations we have a lot of people that support us which is you know wonderful because we're we're bigger than we thought we would be and there's just the two of us and it's a long it's a long enough way out there we don't have a lot of volunteers but we we get it done we uh we get everybody spayed as soon as we get someone we get make sure they're spayed and neutered we get their shots we're always at the vet you know so we we take care of them the best we can and you know the main thing is helping other people because times are tough and if someone needs medicine if we've got it we'll take it or we'll help them get it it's just i just think it's important to to help everybody right now and well forever but yeah yeah well i appreciate you and are there any questions from from the board members just thank you madam chair thank you thank you so much for being here and for your presentation and for all the work and i agree with i'm chair karan about it takes a village and so to know that you're out there taking care of our older animals is is i'm so incredibly grateful so thank you so much please pass on my gratefulness to your sister thank you i will i will it's hard for the two of us to go anywhere so i absolutely understand but thank you for being here today it's a labor of love of course all right well thank you thank you any other questions okay uh board member flores please uh thank you madam chair and and thank you so much susan for everything you and your sister do i i definitely um agree with the chair and and counselor gandara and i would um also what is your website so that people can go and make a donation right now we just use facebook with facebook page for our rescue and we've got a donation button there and we had a website but the money needed to go to the dogs instead of the website so and everyone's on facebook so so we use that sometimes we in the past we've had fundraisers and things like that but uh kova changed so much that you know we'll see maybe we'll get back to normal but we'll keep us posted on the fundraisers and thank you again and thank you madam chair thank you very much board member sanchez please thank you madam chair and i thank you councillor flores i think that was oh i'm sorry that's a problem i'm very new at this so no no problem we appreciate you know one of the things that i've actually we've enjoyed i think working with a coalition for pets and people has been being able to actually hear directly from the community partners and so i want to say you know thank you also for coming and and telling us because i think we get so much more not just from the questions we ask but from understanding you know how how you provide the services to the community what you're doing i mean it takes a lot i think as as uh chair uh as chair koran had mentioned it it takes a a village and especially that's what we see because i think the ascmv plays a big part in that but it without our community partners you know i mean god is they play an extremely important part so i appreciate everything you do thank you for coming out and i appreciate counselor flotis because i was curious as to how people in the community can help or find out more about what you do so it's at least going to the facebook page um and i guess that is that where i guess if you go back to petsmart well that would be the best place or you'll be posting that information on your facebook page yes okay very good awesome but thank you so much for for coming out and sharing uh all the information like i said i appreciate the um i know you said this is new but i said that's part of the fun of this is that we get to hear directly from our community partner so thank you so much for all you do it is a good idea i think for for you to know who's out there and you know everybody there's so many rescues now and everybody has kind of their own certain specialties so it is good to know and and i think you know and i don't know i'll throw this out there i mean is there anything else you can see and how you can partner with the asmv or how the asmv might be able to partner with you i um currently because we would like to get the dogs out of there that we can but right now we we don't know we don't have a place to put them that's what we would like to do is and even if we could get room and take the dogs temporarily that are being transported there's a big need for that and we would love to do that um but no very good and i i know like with covet as you mentioned i think that kind of really affected um the operations for everybody for everybody but i think that's where you know i think hopefully um my hope is that you all you feel comfortable enough to reach out to the board if you have ideas suggestions um that way i think when we hear directly from lake center community partners we get a lot more on how we can continue to work with the asmv and with our community partners yeah it's true it's a good it was a great idea so thank you so much for coming out and uh best wishes well thank you thank you very much thank you so much you did a really good job we really are so glad to hear from you and really appreciate you being here please come back any time oh okay all right thank you thank you so much i go am i done you're good you're good you're good thank you thank you so much again that's that's susan peterson from two hearts four paws animal rescue and you can find them on facebook so i do want to give a quick shout out to the the idea of prevention of animals getting into the shelter i think that's part of what we're thinking about here and in particular i know that this is a morbid topic but i'm a public health person so i'm always thinking about death if you are thinking about your animals i urge you to consider what will happen to them and think about a plan for your animals and in the unfortunate case that you that you pass on and so when i wrote my will recently i i added in a donation to a community partner and and they sort of have a plan to to take in animals in that situation and and i have support for that written into my plans for death so morbid but i think that understanding why animals end up at the shelter or in community partners and what that means for the animals in our own lives is really important so so it's a step you can take to every every one of us can take that step to prevent animals from going into the shelter so okay thank you again for for being here we really appreciate it up next are the city and county acl reports so i will defer to you all again please share your name and for the record plea welcome i think you have a present i think you guys have a presentation yes sure i think so okay so you're good you're good with that or do you need yeah i don't think it's number two okay yep all right thank you so much go ahead hello um i'm brian halsey i'm the caseworker for donand county animal control i'll be giving the presentation for our monthly for january of 2022 for this month we had 266 reported stray animals we had 182 stray animals that we were able to pick up out in the field out of those 182 animals we had 88 stray cats and 94 stray dogs picked up we also had 14 sick or injured animals that were in the county that we were able to get those consisted of six cats and eight dogs we also had 13 owner surrender animals this month for january none of them were cats and all of them were dogs this month this is our four-year comparison chart for for the county [Music] as you can see on the far left it's going to be a little vague just because it's the start of the new year but it'll it'll start to get filled in throughout the year and here's our four-year field return to owner comparison chart for january of 2022 we had 27 rtos which was up from last year of the 16. for our additional animals picked up we had seven welfare holds and that could be anything from if an officer needs assistance if they arrested someone and they had animals in the vehicle or something like that or someone just needed help with the animal we would take them to the animal service center under a welfare hold we had 16 shelter quarantines at the animal service center we had five home quarantines we had zero court hold that's where we keep our live evidence in case we need them for the january for live evidence we currently have six animals in our live evidence facility waiting on the judicial process to see what's going to go on and we have zero rabies submissions for january this is our districts that we have each district has certain areas that are in those districts we keep that up in case anybody has questions with it this next slide this is the animals picked up by district for january so that way we could kind of see what our hot spots are for that month and we can kind of see where everything is projected again this is for per district for the cats that we were able to pick up and it just kind of breaks it down per district so we could see which areas we're getting more cats from for that month and for the year again this is for the dogs per district for our animals for owner release we had seven aggressive animals they were just getting aggressive for multiple multitude of reasons either they were getting more aggressive towards pets towards family members towards people that were walking around the streets we had one vicious that's the act of actually trying to attack another animal or something along those lines we had one person that was unable to care for the dog we had one that killed livestock we had to for health issues and the health issues were the dog's issues just getting older getting sick things like that and then we had one quarantine and there was an owner's surrender and that was for white sands missile range so we ended up taking that in for them and do you guys have any questions thank you officer uh i uh board member sanchez and then board member flores please thank you madam chair mr holsey i just was curious when he looked at the numbers for cats and dogs i noticed that in particular cats in district 2 there were that were picked up and i didn't know i mean that's such a huge um the disparity between all the other districts i don't know if there was a particular case or a reason why there was such a large number um from what i've noticed from going through the stats and everything we have several people in district 2 right now that are currently actively trapping to get cats away from their property for reasons of being they're allergic they're doing proper damage or they just don't want cats on their property okay thank you and then in district 3 i think the same question except with dogs i mean we had 20 29 dogs um you know compared to i think with what's up district 4 had 16. was there any particular thing that we saw within that district 3 that drove that number um usually it's district four that we usually see more of the strays in i couldn't tell you for sure why we had more in district three this in january than we normally did usually it's district four is where we see the most but i can't tell you why we have more this in january than we did okay grant thank you mr halsey thank you madam chair and i see did you wanna did you wanna add something or did you have a question right yes about my if i may i'm just going to add to the district 2 on the number of cats that were picked up to that we do have a couple of uh like like um officer hulsey was saying we do have a couple of cases in district 2 alone where we have some stray cats so we have a resident and i think we talked about it at the last board meeting where this resident lives close to the river area and they're um they're hoarding well they're not hoarding they have a neighbor who died and that neighbor used to feed cats and so they're they're trapping a lot because they don't want the cats in the area and so we've been going out there numerous times i think the number that we ourselves have gone out there to close to 40 times ourselves picking up cats for this individual and and the neighbors and the shelter has gone and taken the cats back out there after they've been fixed so that increases our number on here you're going to see our numbers picked up because of those individual residents themselves so you might see a hot spot in an area of cats going up and it's for those individual reasons so you'll see that thank you you're welcome board member flores thank you madam chair um i had similar questions as board member sanchez and and i do have a question for mary lou so mary lee the the um the cats the those the cats that were being taken care of the ones that are being taken to be um to be spayed neutered are they then returned to the site where they were picked up or uh would that then change in so far as i mean how yeah you have do you have statistics or data that show the numbers going down after a certain event like spraying neutering thank you so that individual case itself um shows us responding to a cat in a trap because that individual is calling for a cat in a trap we pick up the cat in the trap our contract is to take it to the animal services center where in in in turn they take that cat they're fixing that cat they're spay neutering microchipping that cat they're taking it back out to that resident and re and releasing it that person doesn't want that cat back within that area that's that that's the place we talked about last month where it's like within 100 yards from the river and so they they don't want the cat back so they trap set traps out again and we're trapping and it's just a it's just a circle yeah and we're just going back and forth and the shelter keeps returning them and then we're going back and forth so you will see the numbers on some of these these um these areas increase because of that thank you so much you're welcome and um so that explains the high well that's one reason why you have high numbers in district two so my question is where is district 2 mr halsey and where is district three so i see there you go so district two mainly is radium springs fair acres in donand area um and then district three is over on the east mesa by butterfield the oregon the white sands missile range the east mesa home in that area so it looks like it's in areas where there are the population the human population isn't as dense as in other areas for the most part dona is pretty um pretty populated as far as what we usually have to go out there for but the rest of like radium springs that's pretty far out there so great thank you so much thank you madam chair uh board member thank you um chair koran thank you so much for your presentation so i i'm concerned about this because we see it in other areas specifically in the city of las cruces and i i i think it's just not a good use of our resources right it it so what sort of things have you done to communicate with the system to try to mitigate that um it seems like we would maybe reach like do we have a bar a barnyard program or something in that area where we could contract with the individual so that we can and i get it i get why we're doing that but this doesn't seem like systematically that's the misuse of our resources to have county and our city officials you know acos keep going out and then someone traps them and takes them back and i get it you want to take them back you want to fix them right it's the tnr program i understand that piece then you send them back to the same area because environmentally it's the safest and more humane thing to do but shouldn't we be looking at other um solutions and strategies to address this i know that's a very loaded question i get it i understand that but it just doesn't seem like it and i'm not in charge of the acos um but it just doesn't seem like a good use of our resources all the way around um i do know that our officers when we get someone new that's trapping or anytime we get something that's trapping we do go and we educate and we tell them about the community cap program the tnr programs um what to us to expect and they either tell us well we don't want them here because of allergies from you know whatever issue that they're having with them um and then if they tell us that they don't want them there we put it in our notes um if they say that that's fine they can come back we don't put any notes in so that way they could go back to where they need to go okay so based on that do you have any more data that says this is the second or the third right the time that we've had to pick up this animal and now we're at this place where there needs to be a different tactic placed or solution to the the issue so if i can answer that that would be something that we would have to get that data from the shelter okay through their shelter love system we also have in addition to like brian was saying we talked to that individual in regards to educational outreach for these different programs we have in our department the the solar the was it called ultrasonic um they're the little devices you set out for people that deteriorates cats from you know not deteriorates it doesn't that tries to get them from stopping from coming to your property and it's it's some type of a deterrent yeah deterrent that so you don't hear you can't hear the sound but they can hear it and it's supposed to make them not want to come to your property so we loan those out okay as well if they want those we've had people come back and say that they don't work they don't want them we've also have the little devices that they can when they jump on their fences they can lay them across their fences and their little spikes that come up they're rubber spikes but they're supposed to make them not want to jump on the fences and things like that to loan out to individuals we have all those available to to loan to the community as well some have gone out and some have come back where people you know don't no longer want to use them for whatever reasons so we have that that process that we are we have for the community as well to to help assist with this um and in addition to that every officer has a cell phone on them and so when they have new individuals that are trapping that they know they haven't been to this property yet they call them before they even start heading out to that house and say okay this is this is a process that usually happens with these these cats and it's more than likely going to come back to your house and this is what this is what we can do and then they go back out there and they repeat the process to them again so they're hearing it twice from us the same day that usually doesn't change the fact that they want us to pick up the animal for whatever reasons and so that's that's usually how we're handling this mary lou thank you i know there's a lot of education that's that's um being done conducted right and i understand i understand the deterrence but it just i guess i'd like to see a little more data right and then what can we do strategically unless you've pardoned me sorry the allergies in the wind has been a problem for me um this week excuse me um i just i just feel like i'm looking at systems right and how we interface and and i hear a lot from the public related to this around the tnr so in order for our tnr program to work um we really have to address all these all these other issues right have the education have the deterrence um but i feel there's some still some missing parts and i know this continues to be an issue for that area we heard a lot about it last month and i've heard between last month and this month that it continues to be an issue so i don't want to belabor it i just feel like if there's anything that the board can do to help maybe it's through our task force because the city also has those issues as well so i appreciate you giving me the floor chair and allowing me a little bit of latitude in this i don't think that it's completely the board's responsibility but i'm just sharing my concern about this thank you thank you i appreciate your inputs and thank you board member ward for sharing sharing your insights go ahead uh board member sanchez please thank you madam chair and miss ward i'm just curious how many i know i missed i must have missed the discussion last as i was late to last month's meeting but have we in that particular case by the river has there been some deterrence or have we worked with deterrence with that that resident to try to minimize that or what they're seeing actually we have we worked with we we sent officers out i i've spoken to her we've gone out there several times clint himself was gone out there and patrolled the area to try to see what there was in the area that is trying to invite the cats it's by the river so there's everything available for the cats it's within 100 yards of the rivers so there was a couple of houses within several houses down that had maybe an inoperable vehicle that we sent codes out to go take care of the inoperable vehicle there was a storage area with an open door we can't make somebody close their storage door there's no law that that procrudes that but we did go in and educate them and say if you keep your door shut it's inviting for for stray animals keep it shut um things like that to help you know keep these cats away so we did canvas that area ourselves and and talked to it's not just the one person there it's several people within that community because you know this this person this it was an elderly individual he he passed away and he had been feeding these cats apparently for some time and so there's quite a bit of cats i'm not sure brian will know since he's our caseworker he's the one handling all the cases he know he'll probably know more than me about how many cats we have probably picked up within that area maybe you can comment on that brian but um how many brian i think we've probably picked up i think they said around 30 last time we talked to them and they had like about eight to ten more that they wanted us to pick up and so that so that was confirmed by the shelter that they had over maybe clint can comment on that maybe 30 gone back out there so with that process of them going back out there i know one of the one of the comments that that resident had made and she had complained about as well is that the city ordinance doesn't allow for tnr to be released within so close of a proximity to the river areas and that was explained to her that she's not she she resides in the county not within city limits and i think that that was going to be i think my next point i think to what uh mayor pro tem gandara had had kind of mentioned i think is you know in terms of uh trying to figure out what's our best use of resources and i think in the county one of the things that um i believe we need to do is go back and revisit our ordinances because while the while the as the city worked for the task force i know that that was updated last year we in the county have we'll need to do the same thing i think for consistency purposes um as well as just trying to make sure that we're up to date in our practices so i think that we might something we need to take back to the county is to kind of look back at our ordinances and maybe see how we can update or where there's updates needed actually we have already started that process with legal okay very good thank you miss ward thank you manager thank you board member sanchez and just so you guys you all know it was actually at our t in our task force meeting that's why this all might sound different to you and familiar to us because we had this conversation at a different meeting so it wasn't at the board meeting so just thank you for sending me straight i must go to so many meetings them yeah it's not that you guys missed it it was a different conversation board member for us please thank you madam chair so uh mary lou in taking it to your legal department are you looking at making it a mirror mirror type ordinance as much as we can we are looking at that there are some some sections and some subsections that we have to we know we need to revise of course the the tnr being one of them community cats tnr in in a whole that's that's of course one of the sections and then we're also looking at the animals killing livestock portion of that and fighting because it doesn't exist in our ordinance right now it only exists in the state statute and so it ties our hands on the enforcement part of it because we cannot enforce state statute at this point so we're relying on the sheriff's department to take over that part for us so if we let's say for instance we wanted to enforce an animal killing livestock we could only go after them for running at large we can't we we file a petition under the animals killing livestock that that that citation doesn't match the petition we're filing with the courts so we need to be we need to be more um consistent with that so we're trying to we're going to change that as well well with the existing ordnance ordinances because there's probably several that would apply um wouldn't there be isn't there like a cruelty to animals type uh ordinance or isn't there a state of new mexico law that would uh cover all of that it seems to me that there would be especially since there's just so much open space in this in i mean it's like the third largest state in the country and we only have two million people populating it so there's a lot of open space and a lot of animals so do you know yeah we do cover animal cruelty in our current ordinance but doesn't really go into detail in regards to if we wanted to get really detailed on animal like cockfighting or something like that yeah but the it's when you get too specific then it becomes a double-edged sword because then it becomes exclusive for other possibilities for that ordinance to work but your legal's working on it yes and you'll keep an eye on that absolutely great thank you so much marilyn thank you madam chair and just so i may add to that cruelty so we can cite for cruelty but we could cite only as a misdemeanor due to what we could do if we know that it's going to be a felony that's when we call in our sheriff's unit and have them proceed as a felony thank you so much brian thank you thank you so much for your presentation and sharing and giving us a lot of background on this are there any more questions from the board hearing none thank you so much i would invite the the city acos to to come up thank you good morning madam chair members of the board thank you for being here thank you my name is gino gimenez i'm the animal control supervisor for the city of las cruces what i'm going to do is present to you our january 22 numbers so we responded to 456 straight calls for the month of january of those 245 or goa goa meaning gone on arrival the officer did not have contact with that animal or they chased it and it went into a desert and they weren't able to capture it of those we apprehended 211 animal total animals 160 of those were impounded at the animal service center of those 115 were dogs and 55 were cats we were successful in field rtoing 41 meaning that those animals are captured by the animal control officer and they were able to be returned back to their rightful owner or a responsible party we were unsuccessful in field rtowing 25 those were animals that had some sort of identification except we weren't able to give it back to their owners and a slide coming up will show the reasons why so we had a total of 66 identifiable animals so here is my three-year comparison a straight call comparison again like brian stated you know it's going to only show as a dot because we're at the beginning of the fiscal year or the calendar year so for comparison there's our 456 straight calls so a little bit less than last year and way less than 2020. here is our three-year field rto comparison again we were able to rto-41 which is much greater than the previous two januaries here is a new slide a request of the board it's our community cap program back in november i was able to get with central dispatch and they were able to create a new call type for us it's called cat and trap and this is going to be more specific to our community cats program you'll see though that the numbers really don't match between this slide and my previous light because there are very different call types this one is specific to cat and trap however we could have picked up a cat because it's an animal in custody or it could have been a bite cat or it could have been an owner surrender so it doesn't qualify for this particular data so we're doing cat and trap basically as the um the stray cat the nuisance cat that a citizen wanted to capture so in my slide you'll see that we responded to 32 calls for the month of january to a cat in a trap of those three were identified as a community cat meaning they had ear tipped microchip the requirements for a community cat and the officer was to able to release them in that same area and my next slide is the reasons for uh citizens owner releasing their animals 10 were for the owner not being able to care for them six were because of aggression either towards people or other pets one was a dog euthanasia request due to its age one the owner was unable to keep in the yard or to care for next is a dog because it was injured during another dog attack one was the owner was unable to provide medical treatment for it and finally three were only released for signs of aggression they were attacking the children in the household and here are our reasons for that we were unable to field rto six were the owner was deceased and the um the next of kin the family member the daughter would not take the dogs in 13 there was no contact by phone or at the residence and you'll see in my notes that one chip was the address was in mccollum texas and the other one we couldn't get a hold of the registered owner so it was had to be taken to the animal service center for treatment then five the microchip was not registered meaning they had no phone number no registered owner and finally one because the animal owner was out of town and they couldn't make it they couldn't meet with the animal control officer to take it before it got to the animal service center and you'll see that that one where it comes out the chip was registered in mclellan this is something that we're really really pushing for is if citizens were to update their microchip information we this dog may have the family may have transferred from mcallen texas to las cruces but as far as the microchip is concerned it was still registered to that mcclellan texas address so it's kind of a not a hindrance but the animal could have gone home rather than to the animal service center if that microchip information would have been updated and with that i will stand for any questions thank you so much supervisor jimenez i really appreciate you adding that cat question so i do have two specific questions one related to that slide five i think or so i just i'm just trying to think about what this will look like going forward since you've provided to us so three were already sort of designated as tnr community cats the other 29 i assume are then going to end up in the they're going to go to the bottom right so we would expect if we are successful in our tnr program that the number on the top may remain the same but the number on the bottom will keep increasing is that sort of what we're hoping for madam chair and i think what we need to keep in mind is that the tnr program and the community cap program are brand new yeah um i saw one of the questions that was posed to officer halsey is why are they having so many redundant calls to the same area and i think that's part of the reason is that the tnr program and the community cap program are brand new so we are going to have to go back to that same area until they all get microchipped ear tipped vaccinated spayed and neutered and then we they stopped producing offspring and then we'll have a solid number that's going to be three five maybe ten years down the road but until then we're going to have we're going to continue to have those redundant calls to that same address and that number may even go up i believe that next month for february just looking at preliminary numbers through central dispatch through our calls that number is going to go up as far as cat and trap calls but the number is going to stay the same as far as community cats released because we're not there yet we're trying to get there but we're not there yet and again that's going to be something that we see a progression over time but no that's that's great i think it'll be a good it'll be a good place for us to watch you know and a good measure for us to see and then my last my other question is related to the microchip thing is there isn't a sort of a universal way for people to change their microchip status is there madam chair from what i understand the dog owner or animal owner is required to call that microchip company and update their information whether that can be done through the animal service center or directly through the manufacturer or the distributor of the microchip i'm not positive about but i know those are at least two options right there that which i mean is kind of a bummer because getting the microchip if you don't know the microchip company you don't know the address that requires an interface with an aco or an animal agency that has a scanner and so i i wish that back in i could go get a time machine and go back 15 years when we started doing microchipping and make it a universally a universal system of recording it so anyway i just wanted to clarify if there was a way that we could say we could tell people go to this website and update your address so that we can make sure but there isn't one so that's that's unfortunate madam chair and to expand a little bit more on that every aco has like a placard um so the microchip numbers are unique to the manufacturer and to that distributor some start with a zero zero zero some start with nine nine nine and then a unique number is uh given to that animal um so every distributor and manufacturer has that unique series so because of that we're able to pinpoint who distributed and who's the manufacturer of that microchip company of that microchip so we're able to help them if need be and i'm sure the animal service center has that same ability and i appreciate you guys helping i just wish there was a way that didn't have a cost like a like an effort related cost for folks to do that okay um those are my questions thank you so much supervisory minutes i really appreciate it and thank you for adding that that graph other questions from from the board uh board member sanchez and then flores madam chair and i think it's just a kind of comment to what you're saying because i agree i think but but not just not i don't think knowing who i think on top of knowing who the manufacturer is i think a lot of times when we're moving the last thing that goes to your mind is is and unfortunately not not not the pet i mean the pets you know you're you're caring for them but i think it's their microchip and i wonder if you know and that i think we had i had made us you know a thought or a suggestion which was i don't know if and i think this would go for all uh maybe utilities or stuff that if there's a checklist that can be like you know did you also do this did you forget to do that like uh you know just as a reminder because i think um i think that was honestly the last thing i thought about when i came when i moved here and and we had one of my cats ran away and i mean i i i don't know where he went we never found him at the shelter we didn't find him uh i think he found a new home with somebody but but um you know like i said i think that was the last thing i thought about was the microchip yes and now i know you know i think where we have the technology with um where we can i guess now you you register and you get an email and i think that's a reminder and that makes it easier but i think back then when i when i had my originally adopted my cat in 2005 it was you know that was still all new and i didn't think about it so i don't know if there's a way that maybe and i you know i don't know if because there's so many different utilities but i think the utility is something that if we could find a way to use utilities as a reminder when they go check in with changing or setting up new service hey maybe did you maybe you know here's like a little guide or maybe you forgot to do this because i think that would be a great reminder to remind people hey don't forget about your pets or you know if anything else they can think of that they may want to register or change or do so but anyways i just wanted to share that because i think um like i said i think that that's just something like when you have a huge list of everything sometimes that gets overlooked and i appreciate your comment is exactly on point because um you know like i said looking back at my cat i wish i would have i wish i would have updated the the chip microchip information i'm about to make a joke which i realize is not not appropriate in the setting but there's a good chance he's living in a van down by the river [Laughter] you know but no joke i swear i swear you know when we've taken walks around the neighborhood we're like oh god that looks like him and like we caught we're like we don't want to be the the crazy like random stranger going next to somebody's yard trying to like call their cat and to be like is that you but uh you know we've seen and that's what we've made us wonder but um yeah no i appreciate the comment i appreciate the joke i think i think that's a great idea and i think we can we can talk with folks about that possibility so board member flores please madam chair may i before we move on please board member sanchez and i think what happened there is years ago when we were doing the the pet licensing it was an annual requirement so it kind of made it easy and now that we're doing the microchipping which is a one-time deal it's in the animal permanently um it requires a little bit of work on as for the part of the animal owner if there's any changes and i think again comparing it to the the pet licensing and the microchipping the work was already done with the microchipping it's injected it's permanent it's going to be there forever but now the work falls back on that dog owner or animal owner to update that information if there's any life changes well absolutely and i think that's but i think like place i think what i've noticed with new pets is like when i get the email now they i mean they use it as a as uh the companies as marketing like oh you know buy the but you know buy your pet a tag and buy them this and buy them that but at the same time it's the reminder that it's there like oh i have this this is who my company is and so i can go in and log in and get the update the information and at the time there wasn't there and i don't know how many animals i mean i don't know how many people even get those i just know that's me for my own case but yeah absolutely it's it's it is absolutely on the owner and how do we remind them that that is um because it's absolutely i think um a lot when it comes to pets that's the one thing we see and i think that's a common theme is that unfortunately we see and i think the animal service center the acos see is sometimes there's that lack of ownership by the people or or trying to make sure they're they're truly um taking care of their pets absolutely thank you so much for your comments you're welcome thank you board member flores please thank you thank you madam chair and thank you geno officer jimenez so in in so far as a an animal being registered somewhere else based on the microchip is there any way that you can contact mcallen for example and track down the information on the owner or have them contact the owner since they have the information a telephone number for example is that possible madam chair of board member flores the officers have gone through all of that by the time they've come to this point yes ma'am okay and we really don't have the contact information for let's say mcclellan animal control or that county or anything like that majority of these to be honest with you are our nighttime our night shift because the other departments have already shut down for the day or close down for the day they don't work the same schedule we do these are where we're finding the majority of those in the daytime the daytime shift we're able to hold on for the dog a little bit longer we're able to make a a second attempt before that animal goes up to the animal service center but as far as your question um i believe that nationwide once a chip is micro once an animal is microchipped that animal registration is entirely up to the pet owner so they may have done it this initial time but they didn't follow up to show that they had possibly moved to las cruces okay so if my dog gets out and we can't find her but someone else in the world finds her and she's microship chipped would they be able to trace me back as the owner based on that microchip irrespective of where she's found board member florida absolutely let's let's just say for example i'm just hypothetically you're in back home in l.a you take your pet home with you and she escapes for some reason and somehow la county animal control gets custody over they're going to scan the animal the microchip is going to come back and it's going to come back to the information that's registered to that microchip it could be your daughter it could be your son it could be your husband but whoever's information is registered on that microchip is who the animal control officers are first going to attempt to contact okay so pardon me and usually there's an emergency contact so for example it's registered to you but you're unavailable there's always that secondary contact person name and phone number okay so you can track down the owner that way yes okay absolutely and then the other is um i know i had uh i was taking care of my dog for about four years before my son finally said okay she's yours but and he wouldn't surrender the uh microchip because it was his dog even though he's you know living on the other side of the atlantic across the pond as they say and um but he finally surrendered so frank bryce you know i called him and he came over right away and microchipped dede and so we do have people who actually i mean it was wonderful that he came to the home i because he could see that she lived there it wasn't just like a random someone dropping you know dropping in and maybe it's a stolen dog or something you know a stolen pet but so i think that those are two remedies there thank you very much welcome and my understanding is many organizations where you adopt animals from put themselves as the emergency contact and so if there's a secondary sort of issue the dog is they can't get a hold of you because you've changed your phone or something it will go and i know of the las cruces organizations that do this most of them put themselves so that they can go back and follow up with the animals so that it's not completely without a reliable contact relatively so that's also a backup i think that's really works pretty well absolutely thank you so much supervisor any other go ahead board member word please um as you as we discussed earlier we're working on our updating our ordinance right now so looking listening to this and i'm glad this came up because this is jotting jotting something new for us on our ordinance we do have microchipping in our ordinance so this is the perfect opportunity for us to put in some verbage and some language and of course with legals blessing to add that you know we talk about a working microchip in the ordinance but we can put some verbiage in there saying that it needs to be an updated working microchip upon moving to the you know whatever location you're moving to it needs to be updated within x amount of time just like with the driver's license or something else it needs to be updated within a certain amount of time that might be something that we can do in our ordinance and then once we go and we scan an animal and it's not updated we can do that enforcement because it hasn't been updated and we can look at it on that side aspect in in connection with that you know before this all rolls out like when our ordinance rolls out we always look at the educational aspect of things like the county has the free spay and neuter program with the vaccinations the microchipping this all goes hand in hand we go into the communities and we educate when we educate you on your violations we also bring resources out to you to come into compliance this is the perfect opportunity for that so this i think once this ordinance is is finally on its final draft and approved and ready to go i think this would be the perfect opportunity for that that's awesome thank you so much that's a great idea i'm glad that we're thinking about that as just another check and communicating with people and making sure that we're getting folks to do that so thank you again any other questions from you all okay hearing none thank you so much you're welcome supervisor jimenez i appreciate your presentation director thacker please thank you again good morning madam chair hey cmv board my name is clint thacker i'm the director of the animal services center messiah valley here to give you the january 2022 report so currently at the animal center as of yesterday 424 animals breaks it down to 333 dogs and 91 cats at the center our intake for uh before january sorry was dogs 429 and cats was 218 with four other and again those others could be they're anything other than dogs and cats there's a list of our transfers in other words they are the rescue organizations so we as you look through that list you're going to see a lot of local organizations and like i said before that it really does take a village and this just proves that we ended up with 174 rescues that went out in just the month of january some of our returns we have and this is kind of a high month i want to say with having the 10 there but in dogs we have six and cats we have four again with any of the behavior or lifestyle changes we always we have roughed ready program that we mentioned we have food assistance if they need some type of financial assistance veterinary insistence shots things like that that we do offer so but but sometimes people just don't want to take on that responsibility any longer okay our outcomes for january uh in adoptions we had 24 percent reclaims was rescued was 26 community cats was 19.6 and our euthanasia was 14.9 with overall live release rate of 84.7 percent are euthanasia regions reasons again aggressive behavior dog has taken the new highest reason for that again it used to be remember the feral cats but that's no longer because we were able to trap neuter return that great community cap program that we have so i believe it's it's always going to be these two these are our number two and three reasons the medical respiratory issues and the tx is treatments so the those are animals that have were given the treatments but they didn't respond to those treatments so they had to be euthanized our volunteer program continues to excel currently have overall 713 hours that were done in january these volunteers are doing amazing things everything from doing our goal i think believe this weekend is to do a dog walk of over 100 or 100 dogs is the goal to get out of the center and go for a walk we have close to 55 people that are volunteers for the dog team it says 44 there but i know in our meeting we had on tuesday that she was hoping for 55 or 50 to come everybody walked two dogs and then they get pictures taken while they're outside and then those pictures are updated on their on their profile that are online uh cat teams are amazing again we just put the word out see if anybody wants to come and clean cats or help clean cats in the center and people came surprisingly enough so that is amazing they also assist a lot in the adoption places as well and then our current active volunteers is 174. we hit another spike on our visitors in january of 22 we broke the 1000 mark and our appointment percentages were really i believe were really nice the 95 percent of the 166 appointments in january were kept and just over half of those finalized in adoption so 57 percent madam chair uh board member ellen did you did you want to wait until the question section can we wait till the question section to to get i just want a quick answer how are they saturday appointments going where they're open to the public without reservation uh friday and saturday are those and they're going okay it's not a huge ginormous turnout but i believe it was an accreditation to bumping us over the 1000 mark for the visitors okay because we got another letter yes we did and very long letter thank you so here is that information that that you want to look at mr allen the commissioner islands so the total walk-in groups was 104 we have so just to recap so the board and also the people watching understand we have friday and saturday from one to three people can come in and see uh very limited the animals that are up for adoption in a specific kennel that's right there off the front office so we had 104 groups walk in and that was on average 13 per day came in so a total adoptions of 23. and i'm not sure what the average per day means because 104 averaged for two is not 13. we'll have to look at that and tell you but it resulted from 23 adoptions that came in so 22 percent of the people coming or the groups coming in were totaled in adoptions i think there were eight days where you had walk-ins so okay eight times our website views 37 000 and that's about the average of what we're getting through this time facebook views this one is is really confusing um we'll have a high month of low month high month low month and it goes in that cycle so we're trying to figure out what is going on is it dropping off people's facebook views or off their uh off their oh what's it called their feed yeah their feed and then when something comes on or a special they see it they click on it and then it comes back on their feed so we're looking at that to see what and why and what specials were being done in june and versus july and so on and these are our two pets of the week stewie and indigo any questions board member sanchez please thank you madam chair uh clint just uh and i know going back on the facebook i'm just curious and just a thought and i don't have any data to back it up but is there any way to look at also the number of posts and also the number i think like you mentioned like the live uh the the live videos that come up just to kind of see and be able to maybe benchmark because i think you know like you're exactly like you said right i think i get a notification whenever you go live from the aacmv um and you're you know you're doing a walk through or even even if it's not live at least i have the notification and i can still see the video later i'd be curious to see if maybe that's what attracts the people because i think that's one of the things i think we hear often is exactly the point you said it just gets buried on news feed but if you're live and it's a video man people will stop at least interact and see what what's the video all about what's going on what's clint up to today so you know i'd be curious to learn more and see if that's what's driving those posts yeah we'll definitely look into it thank you thank you madam chair thank you board member sanchez any other questions we're in the questions phase yes okay any other questions from the board okay hearing none thank you so much director thacker thank you i believe now we're into the annual report uh i think we're gonna do really quickly committee reports um okay although i don't know that we have a ton i think you can probably stay up here i guess i should say but i do we the finance committee um i talked with do you want to come on up sorry clint you can take a seat for him for a minute while we do the if you want committee reports thank you josh i didn't i didn't know that you guys had a presentation so please thank you good morning madam chair members of the board my name is josh saffel and on behalf of the finance department of the city of las cruces i would like to present the unaudited financials for the period ended january 31st 2022 first off we're going to look at our statement of net position in the general fund we had cash of 1 million four hundred ninety four thousand two hundred and forty seven dollars receivables of two hundred and five thousand six hundred and thirty six dollars giving us total assets of one million six hundred ninety nine thousand eight hundred and eighty three dollars we had liabilities of fifty three thousand two hundred and seventy seven revenue collected in advance of a hundred and ninety seven thousand eight dollars so that left us with a total unassigned fund balance of one million four hundred forty nine thousand five hundred and ninety eight dollars looking at our changes in net position we had total revenue for the period of two million three hundred seven thousand seven hundred and sixty three dollars and total expenditures of one million six hundred and eighty five thousand two hundred and eighty five dollars so that gave us a positive net change or net increase in fund balance of six hundred and twenty two thousand four hundred and seventy eight dollars through the period now if we look at our budget to actual changes in net comparison the total revenue of 2.3 million is 60.1 percent of the budget and the total expenditures of one million six hundred eighty five thousand are forty three point nine percent uh at this time we're looking at about fifty eight point three percent so it's nice to see that our revenues were slightly above that and our expenditures were well below that looking at uh the monthly revenues versus expenditures graph again we can see that it tends to be that the trend is that our revenue tends to be just slightly higher than the expenditures and that's continued uh this month as well looking at our total expenditures again our total expenditures were 1 million 685 285 of that fifty percent was salary uh fifteen point eight percent was benefits eighteen percent was services uh four percent were for temporary services or use of attempt temporary uh temporary employees and then two percent insurance seven percent supplies and one percent in repairs and maintenance other and capital expenditures and for that i will stand for any questions i i have one quick question just looking at the detailed report thank you for your presentation josh i appreciate it um i do it does look like and this might also be a question for clint glant grant revenue is lagging behind what was the expected what would be the expected amount and i'm wondering if that's uh specific grants that are just slow to pay or if that's related to not getting specific grants and if that's going to be a shortcoming in the as we as the year moves on um a possibility with that is the fact that uh several of the grants we've received are grants received in advance so we actually receive the revenue in advance but we can only recognize that when we have expenditures and so it may be the reason why we're seeing a slowdown is that it's possible that there's um just a timing issue between when the expenses are reported when we recognize them as part of the grant and then when we recognize the revenue okay thank you that that helps me understand where that might what might contribute to that any other questions from the board not hearing none thank you josh very much i appreciate it okay just very quickly to address the other two committee reports well to address the executive committee reports because of a scheduling problem on my end we the executive committee did not meet this month but we've corrected our scheduling problem and and we'll be back at it next month so thank you for bearing with me on that the facilities update uh board member gandra is not here um so i will defer a facilities if clint is up for making some something like make a comment that that was the same day that we had our big cold snap and a lot of the facilities were closed half a day so that did not go forward okay that meeting so that meaning thank you very much and now you can stay please and and if you would be up for sharing the action item which is resolution 2022-03 to accept the fy 2021 financial audit report i believe i would entertain a motion first before you would do the presentation are you talking i'm sorry is he doing the presentation on the annual report yes well there's two separate things there's an audit and an annual report audit is going to be handled by josh and the the audit company and that's item six we're still on item for subsection c and the after the semicolon there's the annual report so i went through the committee reports too soon yes you guys should put that check me on that okay thank you okay not doing it the end of the annual report thank you sorry i can't do it now how about that she forgot all about it i forgot the abandoned child go ahead please sorry about that clint you're you're completely okay madam chair not a problem we're going to show you today i'm pleased to present to you the 2021 annual report for the animal service center messiah valley i wanted to give a special thank you to bernice navarro who gathered all the information she tracks all this information through spreadsheets throughout the year and then compiles this report she does it under [Music] well everybody else is also trying to do all of their annual reports she gets information from all of the staff while they're still trying to do their daily and also annual and monthly numbers and works what she does is invaluable to me and i appreciate her so very much for putting this together mostly at the last moment so i appreciate that first to discuss the intake statistics in other words and i'm going to be very very elementary here when i talk so those that are watching this or listening in the future understand what i'm saying so intake is animals that are coming into the center for the city it is 4071 is the total our highest form of intake from the city was from animal control the second was unrestrained from the public and then third was owner surrender and that mirrors also the county so the county's total intake is 3810. again the highest form or method is unrestrained from the animal control officers and the next highest is unrestrained from the public and then owner surrender total combined 7988. so nearly 8 000 animals came into the center in the largest form of intake was again from animal control but the number from owners surrender and unrestrained from the public and this alarms me every single year and this is something that is on the um our action plan is the owner surrender number and the unrestrained from the public that owner surrender number is ridiculously high it is only number three by i believe like if i did the math before but i can't remember it's it's like around 200 animals is all i don't care board member ellen clint what does unrestrained from the public mean mr commissioner that means that an individual in the public was out walking and they found a dog and they brought it to the ascmv or found a cat and unrestrained from animal control that means animal control brought it in okay thank you and then owner surrender means that uh owner no longer could could own or wanted the animal so they brought it to the center so here's our comparison through 2009 so you see that the nearly 000 animals is lower than what it was previously however i'm worried that 2022 if we don't do something differently is going to be etching back up to that 10 000 mark which is where we do not want to be here's our monthly intake as you can see it is it is a cycle in the colder months we get less summer months we have more dogs always or continue to be our highest intake over half of our animal impounds were dogs the other the other close 42 percent were cats and then scattered in between there are the small ones wildlife avian is birds rabbits pocket pets is like mice or guinea pigs or hamsters and then reptiles and some livestock now these are the stats of the animals that left the center or how they left the center as you can see transferred to rescue we had 31.7 percent of all of our outcomes went out in the rescue euthanized is 20 percent adoption is 19.7 percent return to owner which is owners that came and redeemed their animals from the center is at 12 percent community cats is 11 almost 11 and a half percent i'm expecting that percentage to go up that we have a full year of community cap programs running in 2022 the expired and center uh two percent expired and foster one percent and then there's some missing and some wildlife releases there so the adoption comparison the actual number of adoptions is the lowest we've ever seen in uh the ascmv since 2008 when records were kept however you know i'm a big person on on numbers and percentages as i that number really alarmed me when i look at that's the lowest we've ever had but when i look back with our yearly reports that go back to 2012 the if i remember right it was 19.7 is what we had in 2021 of adoptions if you look back from 2012 all the way up until 2017 it was all within that 20 percent it was 19 it was 20 it was 21 and then in 2019 the numbers shot up to of adoption adoption rate so we and then in 2020 it was also a high 20 month but that was because we didn't have a lot of animals coming in so we're still percentage wise in the area but we're looking at ways that that can increase for sure again we always do more dog adoptions than cat adoptions so 65 percent of all of our adoptions were for dogs 34 for cats our transfer number as you can see 2021 animals went out for adoptions a live release rate we have three years up here so you can get a good comparison of them 2021 83.6 percent for dogs and 72.4 percent for cats cats is usually in that 70 percentile as you can see in cats in 2019 was almost 80 we're almost there and so total live release rate altogether was 78.8 percent for the animal service center the live release rate is the rate of animals that left the center alive so 78.8 percent of our animals left the center alive in 2021. 83.6 in 2020 and 80.9 in 2019 euthanasia breakdown again the number one reason in 2021 for euthanasia was feral cats the next one down is respiratory signs and again the tx means treated so we already treated those animals they did not respond to the treatment so they were euthanized i do want to go back maybe it's the next one all right here's the next one uh so you can see in 2021 we euthanized but i want to just point out that it continues to go down throughout the years i i cannot imagine even being in 2015 and euthanizing 3 000 animals but especially in 2008 when the when this started of euthanizing over 10 000 animals so i'm grateful for where we have come from because we learned from our past and is too much for us but we are a far cry from what we used to be as we continue to learn we continue to have great public service and outreach programs the our surgical center is one of them in trap neuter return we did and this is all surgeries that we've done a total of four thousand and thirty just a phenomenal number remember we have limited veterinarian staff and we also have this is all with limited vet veterinarian surgical staff as well but we had 1 311 trap due to return surgeries we had 889 shelter surgeries these are animals that are property of the center and that needed to be sterilized prior to adoptions and then 824 adoption surgeries and those are animals that were adopted uh but needed to have surgery rescue those are animals that would go out to rescue if they were sterilized or that went out to rescue and were sterilized was 389 snap that is the spay neuter action program that is our public spay and neuter portion that we that we implemented earlier this year in or last year and we did want to bring back public spay and neuter because it was suspended for a period of time but we wanted to do it in a way that would incorporate or bring in some of the low income so we partnered with snap to do that so 304 surgeries for that return to owner is are next with 184 those are owners that came and got their animals from the ascmv they redeemed them we call and the law sites states that if it's the second impound i believe in a year they have to either purchase a sterilization voucher or they have to have the the animal sterilized so that is why that option is there so 184 animal owners took took advantage of our reduced cost sterilizations and then 129 other surgeries and that could be anything from hit by car amputations you know a dewclaw removal any just any other injuries that need to be done total visitors 8 652 came to the ascmp in 2021 as our sign-in forms indicate facebook views again a little bit of the up and down we're going to be looking into our website views are continuous around average of 37 000 website hits each month we do have a lot of programs that we continually push throughout the year we have an incredible volunteer program we're going to get into here in a little bit we have articles that go out in the newspaper we get a lot of feedback from those we're grateful for our grant writer that completes those we have pet of the weeks that go out to radio stations and the newspapers we're on instagram facebook snapchat i'm particularly proud of our staff and what we do with the drive-through clinics that we do throughout the year we did two of them this last year we've microchipped over 500 animals and literally saw thousands of animals and people we do radio interviews and we also have conversations at the center where people can post questions to me the first friday of every month our volunteer program is a huge success i love our volunteer program coordinator on how she handles this she's doing she's having the volunteers work closely with the ascmv but also on their own meaning that they can go and they can do a program all on their own they don't they're not hinging on how many of the asuv staff have to be there they do adoption programs they also come and help us out and help set up at many many places so as you saw over a hundred of volunteers are active and love having them and our volunteer coordinator has reached out to some great places between the college the medical college in town boys and girls clubs just great places and getting some fantastic people that love animals as our finances for those that do not know the jpa or the ascmv is a jpa meaning a joint powers agreement which means two people or two groups got together and said let's create something from both of us and that's how the animal service center mississippi messiah valley came to be the city does do all of our finances so we follow their policies which is why josh is up here he's a city employee talks to us about our finances the budget for the ascmv runs on a fiscal year with the city and that's from july to june and that is our fiscal standings there and that concludes our annual report i'll stand for any questions um board member ward please clint can you go to slide five i just have a question so when you talk about county intake and you talk about including anthony hatch messiah at sunderland park white sands now i know anthony itself and and son like like well let's just say anthony itself has their own animal control officer now when you include those numbers are you including the municipality of anthony itself in these numbers are you just saying what are you including yes it's included in there bernice is shaking or nodding her head yes okay thank you thank you i i had a you're good okay i had a question you mentioned on slide probably like 15ish if i see it i can identify it again uh no maybe it's on the spay and neuter period so maybe a little bit further down that one no total surgeries perhaps sorry i'm pointing like you can see what i'm pointing at um so i'm curious about something that you said while this was up specifically about the law suggesting that if they are impounded twice they'll be sterilized no it's they have to purchase a sterilization certificate so they can they can decide whether to to redeem that certificate or not but they have to at least purchase one so but after one impound they don't have to do that and is that a sit where is that law it's a state okay um okay thank you that helps me understand because i feel like that's a place where we could to me if if an animal is is stray there that suggests i wouldn't infer a level of kind of not not as cared for and so i would think that we would want to intervene as soon as possible in those types of situations especially if we're doing things like spaying and neutering feral cats so i feel like um that's a place where i would say if it happens once they should probably have to do that and i do understand matter chair and i when i was in utah i was part of a team that we worked towards getting this exact same law passed in utah through the legislation and the first strike it was not a go at all people were saying well there's there's always the oops there's always the dog ran off without its collar there's there's we need to give some you give people at least one chance to return it and so that's what we did and it looks like new mexico thought the same way is that there's always that one time the difference between the community cats is as a community cat definition is is this has no sign of ownership i mean llc if you look at the percentages of the animals coming in that are redeemed dogs are redeemed a lot more than cats so the higher probability of it so it's kind of that one strike that's what they get i have to admit that if an animal is unaltered that already was the strike and the person gave up their chance to to be irresponsible with them not having a collar so admittedly i i would love if we were more strict on that but thank you that helps me understand any other questions from the board board member ellen's please madam chair glenn is the vacancy problem in surgical has it been solved or we still have some vacancies if i remember right we currently have one vacancy and that has been posted and we're waiting for applicants to be done that's the only so it is in the realm of being completed the there's still a vacancy in the surgical department and that's the veterinarian or the surgical veterinarian so we're working on that one what's the nature of the vacancy that you're posting well we so we have well the posting is of of um i'm sorry a veterinarian surgical assistant is the one that is posted does that require a veterinarian degree no no sir it does not what kind of training is required then i believe the job description states like a couple years of knowledge of surgical experience in the veterinarian setting so they all they prep the animal for surgery they get the animals or the instruments all sterilized so they they have to know that process and understand it okay thank you any other questions from the board all right thank you very much clint i appreciate it and i apologize again for mixing up the agenda um now i believe that we're moving on to six item six action items josh thank you for coming up thank you again clint for that presentation and bernice thank you so much for collecting all that data i know it's it's it's a lot for you so thank you for for supporting that go ahead please josh so once again good morning madam chair members of the board my name is josh saffel and once again on behalf of the finance department i would actually like to introduce our external auditor uh mr chris garner he's coming to us via the telephone um i'll be handling his presentation materials but he will be speaking uh hopefully are you on are you are you on chris can you hear me ma'am chair um i know i have to leave at 11 okay and will we have a quorum yes we'll still have this okay thank you four so yes we'll still have a quan thank you [Music] this is the worst seance ever i'm not sure is it are you there chris chris right [Music] i think we're working on figuring out the technical difficulties can you hear anything we almost had you for a minute there chris okay uh can you hear me now yes yes okay perfect thank you josh uh thank you madam chair and board members what we have here on this presentation is the highlights from the exit conference that we had back in november at the end of the audit and so i'm just going to go again over some of the highlights so josh if you'll move to the next slide this first slide talks about the results of the audit and the report that we issued and so as we went to the audit and we issued what we call an unmodified opinion um in essence as you can see i put on that on the slide a clean opinion so the opinion that we issued is in essence the type of reports that you want to receive and it states that the financial statements are fairly presented in accordance with the standards that we have to follow so this is the highest level of assurance that we as auditors can give and so this is the type of report that you want to receive as we go the next slide this next slide is talking about what we call a yellow book audit in new mexico the state audit rule requires that we do a yellow book audit which expands the type of testing that we as your auditors have to do throughout the audit so what happens is with just regular auditing standards you know we could take one transaction get an understanding of it we don't have to test that control process well with the yellow book audit we have to pick samples test internal controls and then what we do is in this report we we talked about how we've expanded our testing and what we're doing differently and then we have to report our findings and as you can see we did not have any findings as we completed that yellow book testing in new mexico the state auditor has expanded the type of yellow book audit that has to be tested so in new mexico we're required to look at about there's approximately 15 other items things like traveling per diem use of credit cards procurement so there's an expanded amount of transactions in new mexico that we have to test and the one thing in new mexico too that the state audit rule does is it takes the threshold of findings in essence down to the ground level so in new mexico if we have any exceptions whether it's a significant exception or it's not it doesn't matter all findings have to be reported in your audit and based upon our testing we did not have any exceptions even with the expanded items that we had to look at for the single audit if we go to the next slide in this slide we are as your auditors required to report any difficulties encountered performing the audit and as you can see on this slide we did not have any the audit went extremely smooth when we asked questions or for supporting documents that information is given to us in a timely manner it was given to us in good order so that we could complete the audit process so the reason i left this presentation or this slide in the presentation is i think it's really important for the board to know that the finance department is maintaining your records well so that they could respond to our questions respond to the supporting documents that we have to be given and um you know it just shows that your financial records are being maintained in a good order and so again i think that's really important for the board to know that if we go to the next slide this talks about audit adjustments and the reason i i think this is actually one of the more important communications that we as your auditors have to make if we're going in and having to make lots of adjustments as you're making financial decisions as josh presented your financial information earlier if we're making lots of adjustments you would maybe have a little bit of hesitate hasn't hesitancy relying on those numbers but as you can see here we had no audit adjustments all the numbers were correctly reported and again i think what that does is that lets the board know that you can feel confident as you're reviewing those financial information throughout the year and that you can rely on those numbers until good about it we go to the next slide talking about findings again i want to emphasize in new mexico we have a higher standard that we have to look at the state auditor has specific items that they expand that auditing standards don't require us to look at and even with the expanded populations and expanded items that we have to test and with that lower threshold of findings that we have to do in new mexico again if we have any exceptions whether it rises to a more problematic finding or not it doesn't matter all findings have to be reported and even with that level we did not have any findings as we tested the internal controls and we tested the transactions related to your organization so as a result of this year and last year there were no findings for either year to go to the next slide this is just a financial highlight as you can see you know the expenses ever made over the last uh since 2018 have remained fairly consistent um but your revenues did increase um about 500 000 from last year and what that increase really relates to is the city of las cruces increased their contributions to the organization um between 2020 and 2021 so that's really the reason for the increase in revenue but again your expenses have remained fairly consistent they did decrease a little bit over the last three years so your net income has gone up over the last uh last couple of years because the next slide i'll entertain any questions josh thank you for your support and chris thank you for the audit um are there any questions from the from the board members who are here board member flores please i don't have any questions i just want to thank you josh um for keeping everything [Music] to the high standards that new mexico requires it's above the normal auditing uh processes that are taken by accountants nationally so um that's definitely a feather in your cap so thank you very much thank you and thank you clint for keeping the expenditures at the same level even though with we have higher revenues and thank you bernice thank you all thank you madam chair thank you any other questions from from the board hearing none again josh thank you so much for for presenting this and keeping us on track in this way manager i'll make a motion to accept the fiscal year 2021 financial audit report thank you moved by commissioner sanchez second by flores second by flores may we any any further discussion then i would ask for a roll call vote please on approving the 2021 financial audit report resolution 202203 board member ward yes board member ellens board member flores yes board member sanchez yes board member quran yes thank you madam sheriff i could just correct one thing that i said before is i got a text from our our manager's office manager and she stated that it is the first impound unsterilized animal we charged a 25 sterilization deposit or certification fee on the first impound so i was incorrect in speaking and it's every time the animal is impounded so and then they get the money back when they show it can go towards the sterilization with us if they choose to do with us or they can get the money back after they show proof of sterilization within 30 days okay thank you very much i'm glad to hear that thank you and madam chair i also have one more thing i like to share with the board and also with the public about walk-throughs public walk-throughs if that's okay i don't know when you'd like me to do that um uh i think now before we start into public input we also have one other business item that we need to get to so go ahead okay so we did receive a letter and it was it was regarding our walkthroughs and why we currently cannot do walkthroughs right now and i wanted to lay this out and show you the reason why so i want to show you what before it was is we had animal control officers would pull in here and we had an area kennels back here where they would impound the animals from here they would go into this kennel and then they would go into this kennel and it was it was like almost like a snake pattern okay so the animals would move each kennel each day go down because we needed to have an empty kennel to clean so it would move it would be to see and then they'd end up over here in l and s and these were the only these two were the only kennels available for public walk-throughs since i have started working here in 2017. so people would come into the lobby they'd say i want to look at dogs we'd say sure they walk through this door they look at the s kennel then they look into l kennel now if they wanted an entire walk through we would have to have somebody come and meet them like if they're missing their dog or or their cat then we would have staff walk them through these areas over here so that's what it was however we have lost this entire area because of construction there is there's no longer a gate right here that's blocked off for construction animal control officers now drive this way through our gate they park here and they impound in our eye kennels then those animals come into l so this is a stray holding animal these animals are not available for adoption these kennels are these animals are waiting to be redeemed or for their time to go by so we do not allow people here after here they come into c and then and then they go into b and then they go into a m is our medical so if there's any medical item or any medical cases we like to have them back into medical q is our quarantine area bytes of that nature stay in quarantine so public is not allowed there and then r over here is our green roof area that's clear over here so once people come in and walk we say right now on friday and saturday you can come and you can see these dogs that are right here in s because those are the only ones in this area that are available i have no way to get staff or i'm sorry to get public to come all the way through and see the animals that are available for adoption in a or c they would have to walk through areas where dogs are out loose there's needles the animal controller walking through i i just don't see a way and also this sidewalk right here it's a construction fence that borders and construction is happening right out here so we can't walk around they would have to go through the actual center and through these kennels to get to the available dogs in a and b we have our euthanasia room right here and our dish room so this isn't this isn't me being a stickler or being a jerk not wanting people to walk through the center i absolutely we are going to get there in fact when the new center is built in hopefully to be completed between september and january of this year well i should say september of 22 january of 2023 that people can come and walk through anytime they want because we're going to be if they're indoor outdoor kennels and that's going to be the huge advantage of that so that's currently the situation we we are looking at extending the hours that people can come and walk through because now that we're the mandate's been lifted we have those possibilities so we're looking at options of lifting mandate or lifting increasing the hours that animals can be viewed in s another thing the advantage of the appointments animals can be seen online any animal in the entire center if they're marked as available can be seen online so if there's a dog back in b in b1 right here if they want to see it for an appointment for adoption they just need to call make an appointment and we can grab it and and they can meet out back out here so that's the advantage of the appointments otherwise the animals like i said before that were walked through were just these two kennels never have we ever let anybody walk through the center and look at every single kennel that they want to and choose a dog to see since i've been here so there's a little bit of confusion in in the public about what open the center back up well that only means where we were in 2019 before we shut down and that was just these two kennels again we are going to get there but we need to have patience as we get the right things in place so i'll answer any questions there may be thank you for that clarification it does address a number of things and i appreciate hearing that that increasing the number of walk-through appointments i do think that that also just builds goodwill among people and so i appreciate that you all are looking to to make space for that even with the restrictions that it that it's clear a result of kind of both construction and and moving and all that you have going on so i appreciate both aspects of that and that you clarify this for the today and madam chair we would most likely go to adoption-based appointments anyways with the construction because again there's no way to get people through these areas so we would most likely even if the the kobe 19 pandemic never happened we probably would have done it anyways for ease of getting animals seen and i i completely understand that i also think um the com we're about to have another conversation about geo bonds and so i think it's really important for us as as a city specifically to be able to articulate what this has what this means what the progress is on the geo bonds and what that means for the future of how that's going to be so i appreciate you you making that clear and letting us know about the the next phases so are there any other questions from the board about this madam chair board member ellen please clint when a person reviews the animals on the website and makes an appointment to come in and see it is the animal then brought down to the what is now the very small public area the small public area like out here no no s no no the animal if the individual makes an appointment and they can they can reserve like say they make an appointment for a dog in b right here uh we can meet we meet them outside and it's in covered or play areas out here we call them get acquainted areas that are back here so so the the individual does not get to go back to these more remote candles to view the dog no okay thank you board member ellen's board member award please um clint out of 400 and some odd animals that you have in the facility right now um approximately how many of those um dogs are adoptable dogs right now i i couldn't probably over 300 i mean because you have you have these kennels here that have dogs in them you have these kennels here that have dogs that aren't available and then some of our metal case medical cases aren't available because they're under medical watch but the majority of these kennels a b and c are all available animals majority of them so i'm just looking like at if you look in the s kennel oh i'm sorry and s yeah the s is available for adoption so s is where the public's allowed and where they're available so that's that's a minimal you're looking you can house what 14 animals in there right now and that's all that they would actually be able to view if they went in for a for a visit without going on the website and they did a walk just to walk in they'd only be able to see 14 animals is that correct no it's what's in there in kennel s there's 18 kennels 18. and we usually have you know depending on the size of the dog there's sometimes two kennel or two dogs per kennel i know one kennel in there right now has three because they're three small breed dogs so there's more than just 14 dogs in there and we also when people come in we also tell them all of our animals are available we have a qr code that they can scan with their phone and it takes them directly to our adoptable animals online so and also the individuals that are coming in to do a walk through they also need to do an appointment so they'll have to stay and wait until we can squeeze them into an appointment based during those one to three so just another suggestion and you might be doing it already so when an individual comes let's say they just go into the s area and they don't go any further than that i don't know if you had guys have a kiosk like a big tv screen or something with a total screen that's just a rotating of just the other animals and other other areas that they while they're viewing they can see other animals in other areas that are up up for adoptions that they can come and ask you about with maybe an identification number that they can see that they would not have seen otherwise just a suggestion if you're not already doing it you might we we started working on that mary lou and the problem behind it is is we would have to have an internet connection with a web page on our tvs to view the adoptable animals and our tvs currently don't don't have the web browser on them we and so the other idea would be is well we could do a almost like a powerpoint slideshow of available animals and then you're looking at and we want to do those for like the the long-term animals so people can see them but then you're looking at continually updating those almost every day but it has been talked about and again it's something that we're looking into thank you thank you thank you board member any other questions okay thank you for that update clint i appreciate your responding to the to the community inputs so thank you for that um before we get to public comment it was brought to my attention and again i don't think that robert's rules allows for a friendly amendment but there was something on our minutes that suggested that the meeting started at 9 last time and it actually started at 8 and then the meeting was called to order at 903 and i think it was probably called to order around 808 33 so if that's a friendly amendment i don't know can we ask robert about this whatever you say robert says i support um i think bernice can do a quick change on the minutes we can hand write that real quick and it'll be fine to go through okay thank you roberts is only um it recommends procedure there's no law and that we go but i just didn't want to no i think we should we could make that note and so thank you thank you for pointing that thank you bernice it's just that we're so used to meeting at nine it seems yeah thank you thank you uh we're now on item seven public input so uh thank you for those of you who have bared with us from the public i don't know if there is any public input please sir any other i don't seeing one person please come up and state your name for the record well name's gary gayle [Music] just on the microchip issue when i moved down here from omaha nebraska 17 years ago in the moving packet that the realtor handed me was a checklist for taking animals which had microchip notify carrier food water it had a whole whole page of of listing and that might be something we need to speak with the local realtors and maybe get them to you know build a packet or to get together or we build help them put something together in their relocation packets and something maybe to get a hold of like realtor.com and some of the big relating companies um to you know try to see if they could when they give their um sales packets or moving packets to the to the individuals that other that is in incorporated with with the packet um just as a uh as in a checklist and even the title companies when they give the all the checklists and go through all that that uh yeah it's kind of like a reminder that might be another error ready to look at too to maybe enhance the mic being the microchip concept of changing your address your phone number etc etc it really helped me a lot because with with going through the sales and the moving and everything else um it's you know you're taking your animals but boy that's the one part of it you just completely is oblivious to you're just more concerned about getting the cages the food the water what do you need to do how are you going to transport them and the microchip just wasn't there when i saw that on the um on the checklist it was like oh wow okay so it was that wasn't easy that was an easy thing to do when i moved so it's something we might want to address to really as i said the real interest in the moving community thank you thank you so much that's a that's a great idea and i know there are a lot of realtors who are animal advocates so i think that might be a great other opportunity so thank you for that comment any other public comments seeing none hearing none we're on to chair and board comments i'll start with board member ward and we can work our way down um on tier on board comments please i have nothing thank you board member flores it's your time to comment i was busy doing in ministerial work anyway my only comment is thank you very much clint for the work you do gino mary lou bernice and the public and officer withella thank you so much all for uh doing such a fantastic job and i think that the audit report said a lot because you kept your expenses down revenue was up so that's a really good show and thank you so much to clint for your thorough report daniel report thank you thank you madam chair board member sanchez i'm good thank you madam chair board member gandra thank you i apologize for stepping out i had to address a safety issue with the business and law enforcement and so here i am back at the meeting i'm sure it went while i read the packet so i appreciate the everybody's work and i'll turn it back over to you chair thank you very much i also want to echo the gratitude for keeping this moving getting us updated and especially updated data and information in response to public the public so thank you for for keeping us on track i do want to follow up i know that we have a couple of things especially related to tnr we're continuing the conversation we we we know that we have to be working with you all collaboratively on that and uh clint i appreciate your sort of referencing it in your presentation but i think we can continue to work on that to make sure that we're doing the best that we can for our community so so please uh we will be in touch and keep keep that conversation going so i'm sorry madam chair i just have one more thing i need to let you know the board know is that the jpa edits that we're working on just went through the second draft yesterday and we got more um i guess we were mary lou we're more or less voluntold to to get some things finished or get some input on that so we have another meeting coming up in two weeks on the jpa so that will be draft number three so that is in progress going forward thank you that's the second big project that i think we've been talking about so i appreciate your update on that as well and we'll look forward to seeing it as it comes through in its new iteration um all right uh hearing none here being at the end of the agenda i would entertain a motion to adjourn so moved by board member sanchez on second did in passing by by board member flores if you couldn't hear it uh please can we take a vote on the adjournment please we don't need to take a vote we don't need your ticket no you just didn't work with your feet thank you thank you you