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okay good afternoon everyone welcome to
the work session in las vegas city
council today is monday may 9 2022
it's approximately 1 pm before we get
started if you please join me in the
pledge of allegiance
please of america
to the republic for which it stands one
nation
under god indivisible with liberty and
justice for
thank you
okay now we're going to have our pet of
the week our pets of the week and
jennifer martinez from our
communications office
will be presenting them
good afternoon mayor council i'm
jennifer martinez with the city's
communications office
and today i get to tell you about our
cat and dog of the week and i will start
with betsy betsy is a three-year-old
female who is quiet and calm she does
like a good neck scratch she likes to
climb to the tallest part of the kitty
furniture to take a nap she likes
brushing up against your leg and hopes
that you will pet her she is hoping for
a calm home that lets her live
luxuriously and then we have a little
bit of a sad story here alec has been at
the shelter for more than a year he is
the longest term resident and he is very
excited to find a forever home he does
get a little restless so he likes to go
out for walks and he does love walking
he also loves playing with his dog
friends as well this is a very sweet boy
who is waiting for the perfect family to
guide him to be the best dog that he can
be the animal service center can help
make the adoption process easy just call
the number 3820018
and plan a visit to see alec or betsy
there's also a mutt and meow fest going
on this weekend from 10 a.m to 2 p.m
that takes place at 150 east lowman
avenue thank you mayor
thank you jennifer
and next we're going to have our jobs of
the week and dr francisco palladis
deputy director of economic development
will be presenting
good afternoon mr mayor members of the
city council these are your jobs of the
week and this week
is economic development week just as a
reminder for all of us so it's a special
week for us
today we're going to be having a
logistics specialist this is with the
city of las cruces paying 18.7 cents an
hour and this position will be closing
on the 16th of may of 2022. there's also
a position available as a car wash
service technician and this is with mark
7 equipment this position is paying
between 20 to 27 depending on the
experience per hour and it will be
closing on june 1st of 2022. there's
also andelis restaurant is also hiring a
line cook and the salary for this
position is not this close but the
position will be closing on the 1st of
june of 2022 we also have a south valley
operations manager and this is with the
la casa incorporated again the salary
for this one is not disclosed and it
will be closing on the 29th of
may 2022 we also have a leasing
consultant and this is with park place
morrison acre and bart management
services incorporated this position will
be paying between 12 to 15 depending on
the experience per hour and it will be
closing on the 2nd of june of 2022 as
part of economic development week today
we're going to be having and promoting
the las cruces job fair well it's not
today but we're going to be promoting it
today for thursday may the 12th at 2 p.m
at the las cruces convention center
fortunately we have already filled the
positions for the um
the number of employers that have
registered for the job fair but we're
also looking for job seekers in case
there's anybody that you know is looking
for a job we have
the full list of jobs internships and
volunteer opportunities available at
employeeandm.com in government jobs dot
com forward slash careers and forward
slash las cruces
and that is the flyer for our spring job
fair and again it's on
this thursday
may the 12th 2 p.m to 6 p.m
and again the information for our new
mexico workforce connections office with
our friends at new mexico workforce
connections is uh 226 south south
alameda boulevard and the phone number
is
524-6250 thank you very much mr mayor
thank you dr payalis
okay so we have two items on the agenda
first one is going to be the performance
management update and shashana
will be
presenting
good afternoon mr mayor city councilors
my name is regina basnet performance
manager for the city
shoshanna can you talk a little bit
louder closer or louder please sure
all right so
let's see
um today
this presentation is going to focus on
just providing city council with a quick
update on where we are in the process of
realigning our plans
this was something
that was presented a few months ago
and staff has been busy working on the
pieces
to implementation of our comprehensive
plan and also our strategic plan
so the one thing i did mention
when i was here last
was this integration of the department
strategic business plans with our
city strategic
plan
and we are calling that document the
implementation program
and really all this while that has been
the focus to go back and look at our
department business plans and see how
all of their strategic items or actions
strategic results as they're called
match up and line up with the rest of
the city council's strategic plan
so this was uh the timeline that was
presented and we are still relatively on
track
as you can see uh the initiation of
action alignment took place last
kind of mid-september of 2021
we are on track for
reassessing or looking at our
implementation tools
such as the capital improvement plan or
our
budget
which are important tools for
implementing our strategic vision
so currently we are in the realignment
process
and as you are aware budget and cip has
been presented to city council at a
couple of work sessions and we are
anticipating adoption
fairly soon
that will be followed by hopefully a
complete set of updated department
strategic plans
and then we can initiate phase three of
this implementation process which would
be the performance reporting dashboard
and also the evaluation of these plans
so because we do have two new city
councillors uh i will go over this one
slide that i uh kind of presented last
time and really is just to highlight the
fact that our city strategic plan
includes a majority of the elevate las
cruces comprehensive plan
goals
as well as its policies and actions
and what we are doing is trying to
coordinate all of that in order to
achieve the midterm goals of the
strategic plan
so
this is
the focus of the past few months has
been to add the strategic plan themes
and desired outcomes because there were
certain outcomes that were already
defined in the city strategic plan or
council's plan
and right now again going back into the
department plans to identify
which themes and which outcomes really
apply or could be applied
so it's still a work in progress and
i'm gonna
try and open this
city strategic plan implementation
program worksheet just to give you a
little
view of what that is looking like
and it's a monster of a document so
i won't
expect you all to go through everything
but this is just to kind of show you how
there's going to be
um
the city's strategic plan theme
corresponding goals
and then if there is a matching elevate
item those are identified as actions or
policies or
any sort of corresponding
measures
there's an assigned lead so there will
be a department that is kind of in
charge or
the go-to for that particular action
item and then there will be supporting
departments there's also going to be
some milestones defined
and all kinds of measures and other
information
and
if council is interested we would be
happy to share that with you all
so as you noticed
there are quite a few actions in there
the comprehensive plan is
just by nature a very complex plan
because it considers multiple
policies
we have to look at
multi-faceted
programs and and
actions and so while this process is
iterative and there's a lot of back and
forth
it's also complex in nature and
just by trying to simplify it i guess i
just want to
mention that it does remain complex
because we do need to look at different
aspects of any particular policy that
we're trying to implement and make sure
we are doing a good job
so this is just a quick summary of some
of the milestones that have been
identified for actions so there's over
well over 240
milestones so things that we can check
off tasks that we can say we've
accomplished
there have been dates associated with at
least 80 of those so we know we are on
track and we can keep um that schedule
going
um and then this is just a kind of
breakdown
of those actions so 60 of those
actions are
the departments are claiming to
be able to complete them actually by
and then
70 by 2024 77 by 25
and then 91 by 20
26 and the reason why this is not just a
simple mathematical equation here is
because there is a lot of overlap
so not all actions have milestones not
all milestones
have completion dates and not all
actions have
um and not all actions are ongoing
so
at the end of 2026 which is the planning
horizon for the strategic plan
the the idea is that we have identified
about 91 actions that should be
completed
so those are the targets and then
there's over 200 actions that are just
continuous improvements ongoing items
that need to be
taken care of just on a day-to-day
operational basis
so then
last but not least there are some
actions that need further analysis
and that could be because they are more
longer term they don't actually
they're not achievable
in the midterm window of a strategic
planning effort
but they could also mean that it's just
unclear
what what it would take to actually
accomplish those so there's still some
further study
needed
so here's just a quick recap of the
progress to date
through the past few months we've had
multiple rounds of internal work
sessions with departments
and really those are to identify some
key barriers to why
we might have some strategy
implementation challenges
we are revisiting some things in our
existing department plans such as the
strategic result of high-performing
organization
and we are also talking about how best
to report back
to the city manager as well as the city
council
quarterly annually semi-annually
depending on what it is
so earlier this year the department
directors were asked to present an
evaluation of their department plans
which they've had for the last
three years
and then they also presented some
changes and departments varied quite a
bit in what they presented the
challenges they saw
but really
we've had another round to kind of hone
in on those issues
and try to have further conversations to
see where they align and where they
differ
for the most part we see a need for more
collaboration
these
issues
that are complex in nature and we
understand that so many things
contribute to an outcome we need to
partner up um not work in silos
and so this is an internal kind of
culture shift happening right now and
these conversations are really important
and we've had really good feedback from
the department staff saying these are
challenges and we do need to move
forward
in working together on these
the uniqueness of some of these programs
also
bring to attention that there might not
be a cookie-cutter
planning format that fits for everyone
and we might need to be more flexible
more innovative
allowing for a bit more latitude in how
the leaders of the departments want to
do things and get things done
and to that point there is an example i
have in here of the quality of life
strategic business plan which they
changed or proposed to change their
entire format
kind of starting with these bigger
questions of
how much did we do
how well did we do it is anyone better
off and that's how they want to
ask their external stakeholders and
their city partners
these questions and and of their staff
as well that they are asking these
questions
and one thing i will point out and i
don't really expect you to read this
right now it's still a draft
but
what this particular department did is
tie all of their
items enumerate them
and tie them back to the strategic
themes in the city strategic plan
so education community services
environmental sustainability capital
improvement
communication
public safety
and they
they might not be directly
implementing these items but they will
be related or coordinating with other
departments to achieve them and so they
wanted this sort of format
to talk to their
staff and their stakeholders and so
again this is an example of how we might
need to be a little bit more flexible in
allowing these departments to understand
and implement
the plans uh the best way that they know
how to do
that
they also expressed a desire to be
consistent so on the other end we allow
for flexibility but we all
also need to understand that there are
certain things we're working towards and
not just be too scattered in our
approach
so there it's it's a balance and we're
trying to find that balance
there is a ultimate desire to lead with
strategy and not issues so another thing
that was brought up was
just the idea of these strategic plans
being a little bit negative when the
public first looks at them it's just a
whole host of issues it's like we have
so many problems that we need to solve
and some departments actually wanted to
start with a strategy and say we are
actively trying to do this and this is
how we're gonna do it
so that's still phase two and we are not
in phase three of the implementation
process but i just wanna give you a
quick peek
um of what is to come
so once we have all of these plans in
place we do want to start measuring them
and part of that was benchmarking
and creating meaningful
performance measures
we have some
but we need more
not just for the volume of measures but
to actually track and see and be able to
evaluate success
and then last but not least the
reporting aspect which
allows for more transparency
accountability
and also the opportunity for public
feedback which is critical in any
process that we are of course trying to
improve or change
so with that um these are a set of
open gov
the opengl platform is a reporting
platform that we have
at the city
and
these are what opengov calls
stories
so i'm just going to click through them
and give you
examples of what we
are doing and can be doing in the future
so this is the mobile integrated
healthcare program
and
there's a few
examples of what we could be tracking
and reporting on
so
this can this is a dashboard and we can
also have these dashboards function as
reporting
tools for when the departments are
presenting their quarterly reports we
can also tie these to their web pages
for the public to be able to kind of
click on and explore various things that
they're working on right now
this one is the active transportation
story
it will it can link to the actual active
transportation
plan and while that's opening up there
is a lot of flexibility in how we build
the stories so
one
positive aspect of what opengov allows
us to do
is really
to
provide some context to the data so when
we're looking at
any type of data point or
progress that we're trying to show
we can have certain targets set
so as you all may be aware we do have a
baseline report for elevate las cruces
that was presented
in 2021
and so that kind of established the
baseline for some some data that we do
have right now
and we can program
opengov to tell us when we are hitting
above it below it
and also identify areas that need focus
we can also have policies tied to these
measures so that it makes sense why
we're doing what we're doing and why
we're tracking them we can also link
back to our gis information
this is the sidewalk gaps
map
completed by public works
and i do want to thank everyone who
worked on these because it kind of does
take a village to build all of these
dashboards
community development staff senior
planner mark miller our senior bsa todd
sally
public works gis folks and community
development gis folks also worked
on creating a lot of
this information
and so
just to highlight kind of the the
diverse
data that we do have
net trees
it's a very important pedestrian element
to our active transportation
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goal we have we can track the number of
dwelling units or houses within a
quarter mile which is the established
walking distance from trails we can
track the moat share have our pedestrian
crashes gone down
and what's happening with our walk score
so again the data is not complete right
now but this is so far just a
representation of what we could be doing
with this
with some of the data that we do have
and we can also embed videos and kind of
you know
demonstrate
other
peer cities what they're doing
and kind of share that information
and this one is
an example of the utilities
report or story again this one is on
waste diversion
we have grain waste and compost
water usage and there's many ways to
kind of visualize in opengov
so really the departments when they get
into their own stories they can really
play with the data
and
present
it in a way that is
representative of what they do but also
informative to the public
and this is the last one which is right
now um housing is just kind of
demonstrating how we're doing in terms
of building permits for single family
versus the missing middle which is a
target
a kind of
group of houses or housing that elevate
las cruces is is recommending that we
build
in the city and this really lends itself
to creating more attainable or
affordable housing
because it's not always going to be your
multi-uh development or
multi-unit major apartment complexes
we are just missing this in our urban
fabric that traditionally existed
okay and then last but not least
there is a transparency portal for
opengov
and which um
which can be linked through the the city
main page and that is our intent but in
order to build that we need to
kind of figure out our full story set
and then there is also a way to
receive public feedback through that
portal
so here's our city strategic plan
and then there's a whole host of things
you can actually do in opengov in terms
of visualizing the data
and kind of playing with that
so with that um i will stop and
turn it over to city council and mr
mayor for any questions or comments
okay excuse me thank you shana
councillor graham
thank you mayor thank you so much this
was an amazing
report and so much great information
i think the primary question i have and
you already started to answer it i was
wondering about
themes and barriers to implementation
and it looked like you were saying
so much of this is cross-departmental
you're having to work across groups
doing
very different things with very
different management styles
cultural implications
is there anything else
you know with the underlying question of
how can we help
mr mayor councillor graham that is an
excellent question um and i think one
kind of
the biggest thing that we hear is just
the consistency of direction is helpful
for staff
the prioritization
to make things clear to them
it's not always a sequential process one
thing doesn't necessarily come after
another we could be tackling multiple
things at the same time but i think for
the most part
we've been getting feedback from the
departments that it helps to know you
know what is the top most priority
what's the second priority so they can
resource and plan accordingly and i
think that is what you all are trying to
do with the strategic plan
thank you councilman i just said thank
you i'm good
thank you
and thank you srishana
i was curious to see if we are finding
that any of these actions if they're in
conflict with another department how are
we working towards those resolutions and
looking to see what we should
go with
mr mirror uh counselor but that
that's that's a great question too
because that has come up so
there are a few actions that are
questioned
mostly in terms of
sequence
um so does it make sense to do this now
or should we wait until this other thing
is done
and for the most part i think if there
are any actions that are either
completed or don't make sense anymore
those are identified and flagged for
amendments
so you will see those coming before you
through the amendment process for either
the comprehensive plan
because they do need to
bring that forward at least once every
five years but on an annual basis in
terms of a progress report so
you could see that at that time you can
also see these actions get flagged
during your prc meetings for example so
there's a whole
host of ways in which these actions can
be brought to your attention
and i think it really just depends on
what it is and where it fits kind of in
the
the general scheme of things okay thank
you and would that be
the 34 actions that you had identified
on slide eight is that kind of where
those problems are
mr mayor can't councillor
not quite um those
are those require further study
so
the the bulk of those actions are
actually
things that
would either be affected by other
actions
or
they're just things that need to be
refined as you know when the
comprehensive plan was adopted
there were hundreds of action items
recommended
and so
the process of review
is iterative and so it's not necessarily
so that we're just bringing up those i
think even the actions that we know are
good and need to get done those can also
come through to you for further
refinement or direction you do
do we want to focus on this first
so it really just depends
okay and then we had talked a little bit
about the time that it takes for
departments to implement
not only the actions themselves but go
back and do the mapping and things like
that what type of departmental support
are we able to give especially with
departments that may have
um an abundance of actions
um
sorry so your question just to be clear
is a resourcing question or yes okay um
yes so there are certain department
departments that have
uh the majority of actions assigned to
them and that is by nature intentional
just because
uh most of these goals are coming in
from the comprehensive plan and so they
are
about the built environment
however
most of those do get taken care of
through some of the things that we're
already working on for example the land
use
or the the land development code realize
las cruces um that particular
item will take care of
like i don't know some
30 of all of the actions
so so there are kind of
there's an imbalance if you will in in
which departments are going to implement
these goals
however
the resourcing question is really why
that that is
actually something that they should be
bringing up during their strategic plan
and budget uh conversation
and they are doing that right now so
parks and rec you know there's many
examples of departments that have
identified uh actions that cannot be
taken care of right now or within the
foreseeable future unless they are
resourced
accordingly and so their opportunity to
do that is really through their
strategic planning effort
and through their budget requests and
through their cip requests and so making
those connections is really crucial
because we don't want one-off requests
just coming out of the you know kind of
out of thin air we want a process for
that so everybody has
a say at the table
but also
the good work can get evaluated and
weighed
together
okay if that makes sense yeah thank you
and then just looking forward uh i think
it would be very helpful on my end to be
able uh once some of these actions are
in place and
getting a sense on what difference did
it make did it make things smoother
not only for perhaps the customer
residents but for staff and then of
course for council
but are there also challenges did
something not turn out the way that we
thought it would because we implemented
these items
mr mayor councillor but that
that is definitely an excellent
suggestion and i think we will take that
to heart okay thank you so much and
thank you mayor
councillor ben cuomo thanks mayor thanks
rijana for the presentation
i just have a couple questions in terms
of
the
um
i liked the graphs that you had the
actions by 2023 24.
in terms of those actions i know they're
not all policy oriented but for the ones
that are
how are you ensuring
that they are moving through prcs like
how do we because i feel like i asked
this last time you were here i just
wanted to
to see
less silos when we're talking about
these actions and i feel like the prc's
have that potential and so
what is the plan how do you see them
moving through
the prcs mr mayor councilman cuomo
so
there is not a set process for that yet
what i do envision is that the prc
liaisons or the coordinating staff
should be using the city strategic
plan implementation program that big
worksheet to really identify all these
policies and actions
and as and when
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working with the chair of those prcs
they want to
put items on the agenda or bring certain
actions into the conversation
again it really depends on how these
individual prcs are focusing and
prioritize what they're prioritizing but
this is available and it's supposed to
be a tool for everyone to use in that
fashion and so if there's a conversation
for example at a prc
that is debating a particular action or
a policy
okay so what comes out of that is there
a recommendation to amend that
then you go through the amendment
process
is there a change of mind and now that
we see that action are we gonna follow
that course okay now let's talk about
resourcing and actually making it happen
so
the prc really is that level
kind of mid-level direction to staff
without actually directing staff
well no i'm glad you said that right
because i think that's on ifo and i
think from
that would be my guidance to you full
right is that you use what shazhana just
said
for direction particularly to the staff
that are assigned to certain prcs and to
any of us who chair prcs as well
because they do think that they're good
places to move these actions and to
discuss these actions i i think that
when prc's become places where we're
just
information sharing that's not what
they're for right they're to move policy
along
and
you know here's
a great sort of framework for some of
those policies that need to move forward
um so i think if that direction comes
from ifo i think that's
um from us to etho um i think that's how
that works best um but thank you
shirjana and then
just my last questions well yes i saw a
couple of folks um nod and say yes for
you to send us that document i think
that would be really helpful
and then i would like to see
the these 34
policies that need further study and
discussion unless you have some examples
now i would love to hear a couple but if
not
if you could send that to us i think
that would be helpful and then who is
taking the lead on these conversations
for these 34
pieces
mr mayor councilman cuomo
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they do have
some leads assigned
but for the most part they might be
actions that don't have a home right now
so
for example in elevate we were
introduced with some elements that are
not typical of a comprehensive plan
right so some of the social or health
related items for example
even though we might have tried to put a
logical connection
there might have just been a lack of
expertise in-house or
again it really depends i'm trying to
think the the open space one
might be one of those actions um but
don't put me on that right now
but i'll just give you that example of
how
open space conservation even though you
can assign a particular department to be
in charge of that it really has
different aspects to it so we could look
at it from outdoor recreation
perspective economic development we
could look at it from a health
perspective active transportation
um you know capital improvement
investments so
just the nature of certain actions could
be broad enough where there's not a you
know definitive or identifiable
lead
or measure
or even
completion date
they could also be reliant on external
partners to achieve
so you know the state blm
we had
multiple multiple external stakeholders
during the elevate comprehensive
planning process
and a lot of them made recommendations
that turned into policies and actions so
it could also be some of those where
just staff is not
entirely able to pinpoint exactly
how where when that would okay
and i mean that's a great oppor that's a
great opportunity to break down silos
for how we work at city hall right so
um but yes thank you shojana and i would
i would certainly appreciate to see the
list of 34 and that bigger document
thank you
mayor tim
thank you mayor thank you sir john i
appreciate your um
your work on this as you're going
through the slides i'm just getting more
overwhelmed and i can imagine how you're
feeling and stuff so i appreciate this i
think it's great to blend and make sure
that we have um everything aligned and
and and so appreciate that
on slide 12 you
the
what is the deadline for the plans um
from each department is there one
and um i think a time frame very
specific would be helpful for for the
upcoming budget year
mr mayor um
yes so
ultimately at the end of the fiscal year
which is june 30th uh that is the
deadline for the final strategic plans
um
it will still be a work in progress
though because
we're not a hundred percent of course uh
coordinated and matching so to the city
strategic plan which will also go
through a process of refinement um in i
believe 2023 so
while there might not be a certain date
uh where everything is perfectly aligned
and in place i think we will get really
really close by the end of this fiscal
year and then the following fiscal year
we're going to work on
tightening up that connection between
the capital improvement planning the
budget and the city strategic or the
department strategic plans and so
they do need to evolve a little bit
further
because we have not gone through the
process of benchmarking
we have not gone through the process of
really weighing how these measures are
getting tracked
as i showed you with the open gov aspect
there's still a lot of data that needs
to be validated cleaned up
we just have not had an opportunity to
do that for a while so
this is the time we're going to have to
play catch up and and really
work on it
thank you sir john i appreciate it i
like that it's a working document and
that you're pivoting and and i don't
think there's ever going to be
perfection with this so that i'm not
asking for that what i'm asking is is
just appreciate the deadline of of um
you know the end of fiscal year and then
your second phase starting but every
i guess
i'm concerned about the evaluation
component that's the phase three right
because
you're adopting we have adopted the
budget we've adopted these plans there
should be some evaluation that's
occurring
currently so that we can let the public
know these are the things that we're
working on this is the resources these
are gaps and barriers and then
i like the way
in terms of how we're being alerted
through the policy review i think
committees is a really good a good way
to to do a lot of that
and and for me it's um
i think it's very strategic we should be
prioritizing these items very specific
we should be having these conversations
at the policy review committee level so
that if there are policies that need to
come back that they took to council that
it happens in that way so i'm very
interested in seeing the working
document i think that's really important
and you know the hundreds of
of objectives and goals for each um
related to the you know each of the
themes i think are helpful as well and i
too um feel like it's important to know
those 34 because i know there's
especially around the community
prosperity right there's a lot of social
service
things that typically municipalities are
you know have the expertise and and a
way that we evaluate that and that you
come back to council and say
um
you know we don't have the expertise
here this is what needs to happen i know
in the discussions about creating this
health unit if you will where there's
social service
aspects i know there's some
more studying i think that needs to
occur
um there but i think those are things
that are important to me um
and then will we be able to see the
excel spreadsheet
that you gave to us that you showed us
here i mean
yes
absolutely so uh we i can just forward
it on to the city manager and he can
share that with all of you i think
that's helpful so that we can see the
number of yeah i was going to have that
today but
maybe it's not ready
yeah yeah i know that there's that that
that concern and i think that's okay but
it's a working document right and it's
always improving we can all agree that
that's what it's going to be so maybe on
the shared drive would be helpful so
that we can we can get in there and
really see where things are at and see
how things are evolving that would be
important to me
also
yeah i just want to talk a little more
about
these monthly reports that you spoke of
in relation to the departments um
you made mention of right these updates
about each of the priorities and in 2023
this is what's going to 22-23 this is
what's going to happen will we get those
or how how will we know where every
department is
on a regular basis you'll come i know
and you do it twice a year but i don't
think that's enough time
and i don't want to burden you but i
also think that should be available to
us
ms mayor uh member tim
so one of the things that we
are exploring is to do those quarterly
updates through the open gov dashboard
so if that's the case and we are
reporting on those measures in that
manner it shouldn't be too much of an
ordeal to actually report on those just
update the measures and track the
progress
so that is something that we could very
easily share
through say the city manager's dashboard
or the transparency portal
um to city council so i mean i would
take my cues from the city manager sure
of course you know if that's something
you all want to see
i'm sure he is absolutely open to that i
think that's important and i don't i
think we need to be
really clear this isn't perfect there's
going to be challenges we need to
understand what they are and be very
clear with the public right where we
maybe not quite met it and why
i think those are important typically
you know
i go to a lot of meetings outside of
city hall that that you know um
and i get reports from all the wonderful
things that people are doing but they i
think the biggest piece is the
challenges and and and and i i don't
think we should be afraid to say right
these are the challenges and why
and and and not wait till the end of the
year that this stuff needs to get to the
policy review committees and at this
level so that we can really help if it's
a different policy
budget
issues i i just feel like sometimes we
wait and or
it never gets
and i'll tell you i'll be very i'll be
very transparent and concerned about and
share my concern
when directors come to those budget
meetings with you all we don't hear
those we don't we don't hear how what's
challenging about the number of ftvs or
the lack of ftes the lack of funding the
kind if we just had this we don't hear
that i i've never
since i've been here have heard
um
really what that dialogue looks like and
i worry that
it there's not an opportunity i mean
we hear um at the retreat
um some very
more lower level or maybe even more
higher level right but but specifically
i i don't feel i feel there's a
challenge and a barrier as to how that
communication is coming to us from the
director's standpoint and i realize this
is administrative and you know for ifo
and his assistant city managers to
address but i but i also feel like
there's a
gap
in what comes to us right
and so um and then lastly i've asked um
for a brochure to share with the public
similarly to the one that we had
five years ago that i think is important
i know there's so much that that
that's in our strategic plan but i think
a brochure that is is
maybe higher level that sort of talks
about the themes and you know for more
information these are the areas kind of
thing i think that brochure is really
helpful and i've i've received so many i
think positive remarks about having that
brochure that we can share with folks
easily
would be would be helpful and this is
where i think we're missing for this
next strategic
plan and so appreciate you thank you
mayor
um
any comments from
the audience
okay shoshan is that it your
presentation yes sir thank you
okay thank you
okay so next we're going to go to item
3.2 which is the mesa grande drive
extension
and public works director david sedillo
will be presenting
so
good afternoon mayor council david
seville public works director
and i will be introducing the mesa
grande drive extension
the city has been approached by a local
developer and outside
firm
to establish a private public
partnership
for the development and construction of
this major roadway
this proposal of the extension of mesa
on the drive
will be from u.s 70 south to lowman
avenue
also connecting all the existing
arterials along the route
mesa on the drive
is
identified in the messiah valley mpo
future thoroughfare plan
and this has been presented at the
transportation sustainability and
infrastructure policy review committee
with a recommendation move it forward
and that's why we're here today
today staff will be seeking support from
council to move forward with this
proposal
and with us today we have mr john
moscato from sierra north land holdings
and also mr
jim webb
from the goodman corporation who will be
presenting to you this afternoon
and with that i will ask mr webb
to come up for the presentation
good afternoon mayor counselors
my name is jim webb i'm the ceo of the
goodman corporation we're professional
services firm based out of houston in
austin texas
our core capacity is connecting capital
to communities oftentimes it manifests
itself through public-private
partnerships
oftentimes through public public
partnerships and then often as well
through discretionary funding
opportunities so we're looking to knit
all these together as it relates to this
project uh this developer and this
community
um
so we're talking about the mesa grande
drive extension project as mr cedillo
referenced from 70 down to loman
the intention of the project is to
enable additional sustainable
development to grow the city's tax base
and also provide expedited access from
highway 70 to the loman avenue
commercial corridor into downtown
other benefits include increasing access
throughout the community reducing
traffic congestion
and providing additional access east
west through north rise drive caahitas
sedona hills and sonora springs
the extension of the project has been
conceptualized as a proud tree-lined
multi-way boulevard with generous space
for walking and biking this is very
consistent with elevate las cruces
master plan which we've been talking
about in the previous agenda item
what you see here on the screen is a
conceptual cross section
nothing here has been decided or agreed
upon this is just a visual to provide a
a concept of what the facility could
look like
the proposed roadway extension will
conform to the active transportation
plan the complete streets ordinance
elevate las cruces and other applicable
local ordinances state ordinances
federal requirements as well should this
project be federally funded
the intention is that this extension
will be the catalyst for the east mesa
development that's depicted in elevate
las cruces and described as the
consensus growth scenario for the
community
it is the intention that this this
roadway will support mixed-use
development in las cruces it's walkable
bikeable transit compatible
and is consistent with smart smart
growth principles
the development in the roadway will
provide open space and recreational
opportunities in the east side of the
community and then also connect to
current and proposed recreational
amenities such as the east mesa
recreation complex
in terms of the need for this project
the city of course is projected to grow
37 percent between 2018 and 2045.
there is a need or will be a need for
additional housing and infrastructure
this
piece of infrastructure will support
those housing needs and other growth
that's tied to that in this part of the
community
again there's an emphasis within this
concept on sustainability resiliency and
smart growth principles
and really traffic projections we have
completed some on a preliminary basis
which i'll show in a moment demonstrate
that the new roadway will reduce travel
time delay and reduce congestion for
future plan development in the community
so we have or my firm has
completed some initial
traffic modeling we looked at two
scenarios a build scenario
and a no build scenario the build
scenario assumes the construction of
mesa grande drive and then also the
realization of the full uh development
pro forma from the elevate las cruces
master plan
the no build scenario
portrays not building mesa grande drive
and then only realizing development on
the west side of mesa grande or where
mesa granite would be
from the elevate las cruces plan
you'll see from our preliminary analysis
that the construction the facility in
the build scenario reduces total vehicle
miles traveled in the am and pm peak
periods
the reduction in vehicle miles traveled
is essentially due to creation of more
efficient connections
and reducing circuitous trips
that mile reduction is then also creates
a commensurate reduction in vehicle
hours traveled which is the time that
folks spend in their automobile
when our intention is to complete a full
benefits analysis associated with this
project which would really evaluate
economic development benefits congestion
benefits
emissions benefits
but this is a snapshot just to
demonstrate that this project does have
a need based in transportation
engineering
here's a visual you can see here from
the model output
here is a pm or that's the afternoon
peak hour no build scenario
you can see some of the congestion on 70
heading east west and then if we go here
with the build scenario you can kind of
see that congestion taper
it's kind of hard to get in the granular
level based on this image but you can
kind of see again the no build some of
that orange and yellow and then it being
alleviated through the build scenario
and again this is just a preview
so
planning
excuse me planning consistency at the
end of the day there's several slides
here and i'll just really summarize this
project is consistent with
local
regional
county statewide plans as it relates to
transportation comprehensive planning
master planning
recreation planning the plans referenced
here in green are plans for which this
roadway project is specifically
identified
the other plans are really examples
where the plan may have goals or
objectives which are consistent with the
goals and objectives of this project
this is important to note because as we
look to further develop this project and
pursue discretionary funding
opportunities planning consistently
consistency is always something that
funding partners look at and of course
it's important at the local level as
well
so again i'm not going to go through all
this but these are snapshots in the in
the presentation of the individual goals
and objectives which demonstrate
consistency between the plans and the
roadway project itself
of course probably most important to
that is the elevate las cruces
comprehensive plan
so again the consensus growth scenario
in that plan shows further growth in the
east mesa in the project area
the
the the plan as well depicts conceptual
plans for development that is accessible
and accessed from the mesa grande drive
extension
as mr cedillo had referenced this plan
is or this project is also within the
mpos regional transportation plan or
long-range plan uh this roadway is also
on the city's future thoroughfare map as
well um so it's another element of
consistency so you know in summary this
project has been on the books the plans
for for some time now
from a multi-modal and alternative
transportation perspective
this project is also consistent with the
transit planning efforts in the region
and the community
the transit plans have identified
kaihitas and mesa grande as candidates
for high frequency local bus service in
the future
with a option for a potential feature
transfer point at mesa grande and kai
heat is at the intersection itself
as far as right-of-way is concerned for
this project
the majority of it has been dedicated
for the project
however there are some sections that are
still within the state land office and
need to be conveyed those sections are
shown in green on this map
mr moscato with sierra notre dame land
holdings i myself think it would be
beneficial that if the city wants to
move forward with this partnership and
this project
that city coordination towards conveying
these remaining segments would be
helpful in expediting this process and
eventually realizing this project
so in term of the summary benefits of
this project
this will support growth
smart growth planned growth
in the east mesa and will help manage
related traffic demand in the future it
will provide access both for existing
and new development it will enable the
tie-in to existing and future bike pad
connectivity this will also increase
access to existing and proposed or
future community assets schools the high
school
the rec center
of course will also through the
connectivity and access benefits improve
emergency access by creating an
alternative route on the east side of
town
in the event that there is a major crash
incident or just really a delay
at 70 and 25
this project will provide a workaround
for that
and again from an economic development
perspective
this project will enable the further
growth of the tax base and ultimately
revenue generation for the city both in
property tax and sales tax
other benefits
of doing this project through this
unique
public-private partnership opportunity
is that it will allow for the
holistic and consistent planning design
and implementation of really a major
city principal arterial
in other words this will create an
opportunity for us to really look at
this corridor comprehensively come up
with a cross section come up with
termini come up with solutions to
potential problems related to the
natural environment the built
environment whatever it may be
so that this isn't built in a piecemeal
fashion i think that that's really the
alternative here if we don't pursue this
as a holistic project it will likely be
built over time maybe via different
parties
and it will not yield itself to really
the the consistent congruent corridor
that we really all like it to be
um
and really the the
corollary to that is then being able to
apply to the entire corridor at the
forefront of the planning process
principles from the plans and ordinances
i had referenced previously so the
active transportation plan
the arroyo management plan the complete
streets ordinance and then of course
elevate las cruces
so
just to speak a little bit about about
what we're really proposing here um we
have
a developer with sierra nurture land
holdings that's really willing to
provide the local share commitment for
federal funding opportunities for the
construction of this road the developer
is also willing to fund the design the
development of this corridor and then is
also willing to convey property for the
facility as well
in return
the city would essentially be the
project sponsor or the recipient of
federal funding that would be pursued as
this would be a public infrastructure
element at the end of the day
so this is really a unique opportunity
to leverage to the greatest extent
possible private investment to develop
the project provide the local share
which is usually 20
could be as much as 50 percent
and and really leverage further federal
dollars to help build this facility
what's being asked of the city in return
is partnership
stewardship of the project and
privatization at some level of this
project in pursuit of discretionary
resources through discretionary grant
opportunities
so um
following today potential next steps
would be to codify an agreement with the
city
and the city council and the mayor and
the city attorney which would identify
the roles and responsibilities as we
work through the project development
process the funding process and really
you know everything moving forward from
there
from there moving to planning and design
of this facility there's been a very
very abbreviated a bit of this done
already just discussion of potentially
what that cross section could look like
termini things to consider etc
should this move forward of course that
be done at a much much more robust level
we'd like to finalize the costs of the
project the benefits of the project so
we've got that full benefit cost
analysis to really be able to
communicate to the public as well as our
funding partners
what's the benefit of doing this project
in terms of congestion safety access
economic development you name it
also begin work towards the completion
of the federal environmental process if
we do pursue federal funding for this
project and if we're awarded or if the
city is awarded we would need to go
through that national environmental
policy act process that nipa process
so that's a very robust environmental
process and we're going to want to make
sure that we satisfy it
and we begin work on that to make the
project as shovel ready as it can
possibly be
and then of course we'd work with the
city to coordinate funding opportunities
through the metropolitan planning
organization or the mpo
through earmarking opportunities and
through discretionary funding
opportunities like the infra program
the raise program and whatever other
grant opportunities may become available
to us and then of course would pursue
funding for the implementation the
project itself
so um that is my presentation at this
point
john i'd ask maybe if you have any other
comments if not we can open it up for
questions
thank you mr webb let me just
start off a couple questions first sure
and um first off it sounds good i
i agree with a lot of the comments you
said as far as the fact that
um
you know i know this has been on the mpo
for a long time it's been discussed
the metro
mesa grande which is go right in front
of monat or oregon mountain high school
but
so would you be
let's just use the hypothetical 30
million to build it
you would be wanting to do
the entire four lanes two on each side
correct and run help me run through
what the scenario would look like if it
was say 30 million to build okay um
let's use 50. that's easier for my brain
in terms of an 80 20 match requirement
so if it's a 50 million dollar project
generally if it's an 80 20 type of
program
through whatever united states
department of transportation program
there might be available
essentially what would happen is we
would identify this funding opportunity
we would work with the city city
manager's office staff and say hey
we're ready to go we've done our due
diligence ready to pursue this
we've got this grant opportunity
we're willing to provide the local share
so that 10 million dollars of that 50
million dollar project we're willing the
developer the private sector is willing
to provide that
does the city concur with pursuing this
grand opportunity
because the city would have to be the
sponsor
um so if that's the case the city would
say ideally yes let's go ahead and
pursue this
we would have an agreement in place
already or maybe one that would need to
be updated that says okay should this
thing be funded the
the matching funds would come from the
private sector the federal funds would
flow through the city should it be
funded then we'll work jointly to go and
actually implement the project and we've
developed a kind of a concept framework
which outlines roles and
responsibilities and what sierra norte
land holdings has agreed to in principle
is that they'll be largely responsible
for assisting the city with grant
management construction administration
maintaining federal compliance
provisions things of that nature really
to take the burden off the city to the
maximum extent possible
so really what would the city would be
out
through this this hypothetical scenario
would be staff time it was essentially
what it would be and some time for
inspections and things like that
but the intent is largely for the
project to be funded through the the
private dollars and then federal dollars
made available through some federal
funding opportunity
okay i want to say one last thing and
then i'll turn over to my colleagues
although i haven't seen any lights yet
so
just for a matter of reference for
counselors graham and and
koran
the developers have actually we did
something similar several years ago
to build sonoma ranch boulevard north
although then but they've been paying
back on that so
at least they have that track record
that they have
now they've actually built the road and
given it to us so just thought i'd share
that with you
counselor beta and then counselor ben
cuomo
yes thank you
um i have one question on the sequence
of uh how to build uh you identified it
was
on one of your slides there was a green
mark of areas that
would have to be
approved to be connected
yes
and so in this sort of plan what is the
sequence on which those would be
incorporated so that we know that
a full road can be built sure
the ideal sequence is really what we
want to do is once we get through this
step and get this agreement in place is
really begin to work through that
detailed planning design and then also
begin to engage the city and the state
land office to begin to
get these additional rights-of-way
conveyed for public use um the intention
is to do all this is one project again
to realize the efficiencies and the
i don't know the the planning benefits
of the project so that would be one of
the first steps we'd take okay thank you
and
as you described this project would
adhere to the complete streets
planning and the active transportation
plans
counsel you guys absolutely okay thank
you thank you mayor
thank you councillor bencomo thanks
mayor and then just in terms of just to
add right to you're saying in terms of
what the city would be out for and
maintenance right future maintenance for
forever
i just wanted to tap that note um i did
want to thank you for
um the
pm build-out scenarios you didn't
include that in the tsiprc and that was
really helpful
um and then for and also thank you for
including the arroyo planning
is that something you expect
will be done through the goodman goodman
corporation my apologies correct um or
an external
expert so mayor counselor um the
can the detailed design effort would not
be completed by my firm so it would be
some other design consultant retained by
sierra norte um but my thought is that
process should be heavily driven through
the city because at the end of the day
it's going to be city requirements
i actually don't mind that at all and
just so you just to note because we had
this conversation at the prc
both the sustainability officer and and
staff from parks and rec um provided
input for this because arroyo protection
out there is really critical and we
honestly don't have a plan for it and
it could be really dangerous and
detrimental to folks living out there
but also the environment and so i do
think that you know including folks like
lisa and catherine um would be really
important
and then mayor i did i don't want to
perm on the spot but i did see andrew
from mpo come in i wonder if um he would
have anything to add either just from
the mpo perspective
because he also was not at the prc and
i would just be curious to hear from him
thanks andrew
thankfully this is already down at my
level good afternoon mayor members of
the council my name is andrew ray uh i
am the mpo officer for the messiah
valley mpo um just to follow up on what
the the consultant said yes this is a
facility that is on the current mtp
mobility 2045. it is in an out year
we we break up the project uh brackets
by by segments five-year 10-year
15-year and beyond um it is in the
beyond category right now but it is up
to the city to determine as an entity
when the city
deems it in its best interest to
make changes make moves in this regard
there is one thing that i do want to add
it is very likely i don't want to say
100 assurance but
very likely that what would actually
happen is the city would be applying
directly to the federal government
there's probably probably not
going to be
a pot of funds that the npo per se is
going to
preside over
that would be applicable for a project
like this so the npo directly would not
engage with this except for potential
letters of support which the city would
need to solicit from the npo
until after a grant was awarded at which
point we would have to
to put it into the transportation
improvement program
potentially amend the mtp depending on
the timeline of of such things happening
so just wanted to add that clarification
all the things that i've heard so far
as far as pots of money that the npo
itself might do calls for project for
it's going to be planning things it's
going to be it's not really going to be
an infrastructure stuff that all those
asks are going to go to the federal
government thanks andrew i always
appreciate your expertise since you're
up here and this question is for you or
any other staff actually um in terms of
public input has the mpo collected
public input on this specific project
no uh mr mayor councillor ben como we
have not from from a formal standpoint
this is kind of the first time that we
are seeing this um we have been
engaged informally in conversations
about this so we're aware of it but
there's been no public engagement no
nothing of that nature has taken place
okay
thanks andrew
um
and then yeah i guess that would just be
the only
um piece for me is that you know
just hearing from folks who live out
there and how they feel about this plan
thanks man
so i just want to say a couple more
comments um mayor
he might have had something to say oh
i'm sorry thank you mayor councillor
my only comment on the public engagement
is that i know that this area this part
of the community was
referenced and really not more than
reference right it was examined studied
as part of the elevate las cruces master
plan
so this roadway was comprehended in that
master plan
um or i should say comprehensive plan as
well as the consensus growth scenario so
so at some level the the community is
aware of this project and there's been
some basic stakeholder engagement
okay so what i wanted to say was
i
this first off i didn't realize there
were funds that that could be used is it
because it's so close or to get onto the
to the highway 70 that
just that there could be some grant
money or funds like this mayor this is a
regionally significant corridor
right now there are more federal
programs for a project like this than
have ever been made available this is
kind of a unique opportunity due to the
transportation bill
and this is frankly the
could be the right project at the right
time okay
the reason why i say that is
i still remember in 1995 i was with the
county commission there and angler road
it was this what discussion we're having
here was angler was being discussed
and then fast forward 25 years before it
finally opened so when you have an
opportunity to have this road done which
believe me i've i've
thought of often
when it was going to happen
i know councillor flotus isn't here
that's her district and and then council
koran's on the other side of highway 70.
but
i can i just jot down a few things one
obviously it's going to reduce traffic
on highway 70. two is going to give them
addition it's going to give us an
additional access to highway 70 because
right now it's through tell shore
through road runner parkway sonoma ranch
boulevard and this would yet be yet
another
but more importantly i can still
remember when my oldest daughter was
going to school and she was first
driving
i was following her and with a
walkie-talkie right and you're trying to
get on first they went on a frontage
roll but imagine on highway 70. so this
would be yet another route a safer route
because it goes right in front of
amino or oregon
and then of course as you mentioned
comprehensive plan consistency
but also i know we've also always
discussed about more
housing and some
affordable within the price range and
that's that's a whole different area
there it's all could be developed and
and um i think you could see a lot more
uh housing there that that las cruces
can afford
and um one thing i wanted to say
and i used to represent the district six
years ago and there's still problems
there's blind spots there i mean what
i'm trying to say is if if we can if we
can do this
we can just make sure there are the
blind spots because there's those
accidents there and it's not very
bicycle friendly and i was just
wondering if you could kind of just
spend a few minutes on
and and
how we can make it so that
i mean i i wish i i think i probably
once rode a bike and it's not too far on
road runner parkway i am not getting on
that street i'm sorry bicyclists that
are enthusiasts that are out there
there's just no way
to me it's it's kind of dangerous but i
know there's new
new
street patterns or for to allow for
bikes but
and i know that
looking at the concept it looks like
you're going to do a multi-use path
and i'm wondering if there is a way to
extend that even if it meant
i mean i'd be willing to support some
additional funds to make it so that it's
a
walking path and a certain area set
aside for electric scooters and
bicyclists you know i don't know i don't
know what concepts that are out there
are you aware of any and if so can you
share those with us please mayor yes i'm
working on a project in houston right
now actually
which is somewhat similar to this
section
although you've got a dedicated
in that case eight foot wide pedestrian
path and then a separate bicycle
facility which is delineated
and it's fully separated with another
curb as well so that would be another
safe area where folks can bike they
could use scooters
whatever else they want to use
rollerblade etc to be separated from
pedestrians and that just reduces
conflict between walkers people with
dogs people strollers and bikers so
as we work to refine this concept and
workshop it with the city those are
definitely things that we can explore
i ride a bike like once a year
for my annual bike ride this time be
three years but i know bicyclists like
to ride on the high on the street i
personally would love to write on the
multi-use path
but i wonder if it wouldn't
hurt if in addition to the
discussions you get with the public
maybe include them as well just to have
their input
mayor i thought the rollerblading
shoutout was for you
i'm sorry what what
okay so anyways i mean i'm good with
this i mean gosh what there's no
downside to the city we get
an opportunity to have
what what appears to be a 30 to 50
million dollar road you build it get all
that stuff done and
give us the keys after you're finished
that's a
50 30 to 50 million dollar addition to
our balance sheet which is pretty good
mayor pro tem yeah i do thank you thank
you so much for your presentation
um
could you go back to that map with the
green and
yes
uh that green area there is um specific
sections in greed that need to be
you need to have a i guess a discussion
formal discussion with the state of new
mexico are you talking d.o.t
the land office
verbals
john you could speak to this better than
i can
good afternoon mr mayor uh
councillor gondara john muscato's here
north land holdings the
area in green would have to be uh
coordinated through the state land
office uh much of the area
north of the
southernmost green portion there
has already been dedicated by the land
office to the city
we weren't involved in that dedication
it predates any of our development
activities in this area and we're not
sure why when that area was
dedicated to the city why it wasn't
dedicated all the way to lowman
seems logical to us that if the land
office was willing to
dedicate
the right-of-way to the city for a
couple of miles north of that green area
that there'd be no reason why there
would be hesitancy or reason why they
would uh not cooperate with the city for
dedicating that remaining portion as
well as the portion of northride that
goes through uh section 27
as shown up
toward the to the northern point so
exclusively with the state land office
and we've had a lot of experience i'm
sure the city has had a lot of
experience with the land office in terms
of acquisition of right-of-way so i
think it would just be a routine
application but we hope it would be a
routine application i know i guess
that's my question like how routine and
how likely will they approve it and if
we've had some
um you know positive
um you know
remark positive um approval then i'm i'm
more likely to support it i i i see this
and i see i i agree that we need to have
some relief um for sure but i also then
begin to
be concerned about just building for
more cars and i i want it to be i want
to be very clear that
i would agree
if
be in agreement if um we have ensure
that we have the complete streets always
at the forefront that we're building you
know that so pedestrians and bicyclists
have um
you know a safe place to to do that
would be of importance to me
um you know right now we just can't get
a handle on our speeding and people
the fatalities the crashes those things
and this is just another
um addition to that that i'm i'm very
concerned about so i i just want to make
sure that it's likely if we move forward
that there's agreement i guess there's
always a chance that they could say no
but i don't see that it just doesn't
make sense here if they say no so
again i'm concerned about about this
additional i know it will
free up the congestion but i also know
um
and and i like that concept that was
shown earlier i think that is really the
way to go but those two way back i'm a
little worried about that in terms of
speeding it would be
my concern
um
to counselor bencomo's point about we
would take on the
um
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once we build this and we would have to
take on right the maintenance of that do
we have an amount of money what that
would look like for something like this
mayor pro tem at this time we don't have
a definitive dollar amount this being
new infrastructure
as it ages that would give us the
opportunity to collect those funds to be
able to maintain it
one point that i do want to make
is
this way if the roadway is built
completely
it's easier for us to program
in our pavement management system
because now we are able to incorporate
that overall with the funding having
different sections come in that proves a
little difficult because
some pieces may not experience the level
of traffic that it needs to
to function and live
as
a cross-section of the roadway so at
this point we haven't pinpoint a dollar
amount but again over time
that would be folded in with our
maintenance sure i understand maybe 10
years or so i think but there still
requires maintenance i think it's
important that we have
you know um an amount an average
something that we understand that in 10
years we'll we'll be
um i won't be here in 10 years right so
just i think it's important that we're
mindful of that and we'll have that
because this will if we move forward
with this this will come before council
with the resolution and at that point
we'll be able to get you that estimated
cost thank you thank you david thank you
mr muscati thank you
so one thing i was just going to point
out
and i know you're aware of this mayor
pretend but if if we can get that from
the that north rise from the state
plus the other commercial activity that
will be generated from mesa
drive being developed
that's going to bring a lot of revenue
to the city and what percent of the
budget goes to you david
approximately 10 percent
mayor i believe at the last budget
presentation i think our budget was
around 12. yeah so
gosh if we bring in i mean this will
this will bring in a fair amount of
money i i we you should have enough to
maintain that road and plus if you build
it right it shouldn't have to mess with
it for a few years
so i i think it's pretty exciting
thanks for bringing it forward uh
councillor abetta and then councillor
koran yeah thank you mayor um i'm also
in agreement with you about
moving this forward i do see this as
needed infrastructure for the future
everything from safety to
i think it is a good opportunity
if built correctly to have
more active transportation that's not
only just cars but if it has the biking
pads and walking paths to connect people
so i look forward to hopefully seeing it
soon
counselor karen
and i i had plenty of time to have this
conversation at the tsi prc so i really
appreciate you all coming back and
following up but i did just want to
point out a couple two things one is
related to the maintenance if in our in
our model of of complete streets and and
multi-use paths i would like to point
out that i think parks and rec is also
on the hook for maintenance and so i do
want to acknowledge that that's a part
of that ongoing conversation that we
have to have an increasing
infrastructure recognizing that and i do
think that is something we should
consider in in our ongoing conversations
especially about impact fees
for parks and rec so i do want to just
acknowledge that in this and then i
would also just say as being new here i
don't know exactly how the process goes
when something comes to a work session
and there's sort of a general consensus
i don't know what the next steps in the
process are so i just i'm curious if you
can sort of spell out what that looks
like since we don't vote on things here
and do all of that i just wanted to
follow up on what the next steps might
be no good very good question counselor
since it appears as though there's a
general consensus to move forward
then
staff david will work with with legal
and others to start drawing up what they
need to there needs to be a resolution
come forward to the city in the next
month or so that will come forward and
then
when it comes before us we'll say oh
yeah remember we had a work session on
this and and we said we like it and
hopefully you vote for it
yeah
hopefully remember
anything else
thank you all for the presentation it's
been really helpful
mayor counselors thank you for your time
well let me just ask if there's any
members of the public who'd like to say
anything
no
okay well thank you very much thank you
for the presentation and good luck to
you and we'll be rooting for you on the
on the ground
okay so i think that's it
okay
that's good that's nice it evens out
last monday we spent what 14 hours here
today we spent two hours
okay so if there's nothing further
entertaining motion to adjourn so move
to beta second option made by counselor
beta second by counselor ben cuomo
christine
this is on the motion to adjourn the
work session counselor beta yes
counselor graham yes counselor bencomo
yes cancer koran yes
cancer florida's is absent cancer
gandana yes and mayor yes
okay we're adjourned at
26 pm
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