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okay good afternoon everyone welcome to
the work session las cruces city council
today is monday june 27 2022 it's
approximately 1 p.m
before we begin i'm going to ask you
please rise for the pledge of allegiance
thank you
jennifer martinez from our
communications office is going to
introduce our pets of the week
good afternoon mayor council i'm
jennifer martinez with the city's
communications office
and today i have the opportunity to
introduce you to cleo
cleo is a five-month-old cat who has
spent the last few months with a foster
mom
cleo started out a little timid but now
is a little sweetie who does love to
play
she has a ton of toys to choose from but
her feather her ball and her mouse are
among her favorites
her foster mom says she has quite a big
purr and can't wait to use it in her
forever home
and then we have carmella
carmella is a two-year-old medium-sized
girl she is very affectionate and loves
to cuddle
she's not a huge fan of cats so she's
hoping for a dog and people household
only carmela has been found to be
positive for heartworms but her foster
has already raised about half of the
cost of the treatment so far and they
are willing to support carmella's
forever family through the rest of her
treatment as well
if you're interested in adoption please
call the animal services center at 3820
if you have free time and space consider
becoming a foster this makes a little
extra space at the center but it also
helps the pet get a little extra
conditioning for a new home there is
also a downtown farmers market adoption
event taking this taking place from 9 am
until noon this saturday july 2nd thank
you mayor
okay thank you jennifer
next is going to be our jobs of the week
and dr francisco palladis the deputy
director of economic development will be
presenting
good afternoon mr mayor members of the
city council for this week's jobs of the
week we have an evidence supply
technician with the city of las cruces
this position is paying 18.55 an hour
and this will be closing on the 5th of
july of 2022. there's also positions
available with messiah valley hospice
incorporated as a groundskeeper and
maintenance assistant these positions
are paying between 11 50 to 16.25 an
hour depending on the experience and it
will be closing on the 24th of july of
2022. there's also positions available
with courtyard by marriott at nmsu and
this is for a hotel maintenance engineer
this position is paying 16 an hour and
will be closing on the 23rd of july of
2022 there's also positions available
with dona ana county head start and this
is for a family outreach worker paying
11 with 95 cents an hour closing on the
23rd of july of 2022 and there's also a
position available with the american
beverages for an administrative
assistant position and the salary for
this position was not disclosed and the
position will be closing on the 21st of
july of 2022 for a full list of jobs
internships and volunteer opportunities
please visit employeem.com or government
jobs dot com forward slash careers
forward slash las cruces
and for the information of our friends
at the new mexico workforce connections
office the phone number is 524-625
and they're located at 226 south alameda
boulevard in our downtown las cruces
thank you mr mayor
okay thank you dr payalis
okay so we have two items on the agenda
first one is going to be the geo bond
2022 update and david ware from
community development will be discussing
presenting
good afternoon mayor and city council
david weir at the community development
department
i'm one of the members of the team
that's been working on the 2022 geobond
initiative and effort
today's
presentation the intent is to basically
go over
four points the first is
to again review the survey that was done
by arc with the initial public
engagement
the second one is to go over the results
that were
conducted
more targeted
for the community and the projects
specifically
then to go over again refresher on the
geobond projects that have been
identified to date and then begin the
discussion on narrowing down those
priorities and creating valid questions
for the whole community
this slide reflects the survey that was
done with all the public engagement the
13 meetings that took place
public survey and you can kind of see
this is a refresher that you had at your
last work session
but you can see the top three or four
projects identified that were
public safety improvements
rehabilitation of existing parks
the development of a multi-purpose
community facility and then also
continue to work on the east mesa
recreation complex
just again this is a refresher of the
number of input oh excuse me this is a
slide on the second survey
just some background information on that
this was
targeted towards residents of the city
of las cruces it was also
targeted for people that were registered
likely to be registered voters
the
targeting of the people to take the
survey was done with the email list that
we have
it was also there were links to it
provided on the city's web page and a
social media boost
whether they were registered as voters
was a self-identification so just for
your information
when they did that one of the questions
they were asked with this second survey
is if you were to prioritize the
projects that were provided how would
you do that on the
left side of the slide you can see the
top five and then on the right side is
the other five that were done so
you can also there was a mean provided
on what was the
how that ranking broke down so you can
see
this survey the top one was neighborhood
reinvestment improvement
the second was the affordable housing
efforts for the city and the third was
rehabilitation of existing parks so you
can see that all those kind of group and
then your next one is a new fire station
number nine so
that's the
how they were ranked by the community
the next question was then
took this ranking and said how likely
are you to vote in support of those and
so the rankings are kept the same but
you can see the percentage of
support that each one of them received
i think of what's really of interest of
this slide is that the community
supported overwhelmingly with more than
60 percent the top eight
and then even the other two
were near the 50 mark so there was a lot
of community support for all these
projects that were identified
the next thing that we wanted to go into
was again a review of the various
projects that have been identified and
try to put some preliminary costs to
those
this is still
pre-finalization of those projects but
it the intent is to try to give you some
type of priority of what the need is
for each of these projects and the cost
so you can kind of see some of the
criteria that played into it
if there was a site that needed to be
acquired
what would the approximate cost of that
be
what would be required to develop it
what's the design administration
contingencies
involved with that and we just wanted to
make sure that everyone knew that
the projects would follow the city's
public art ordinance and there would be
two percent of the projects going to
those projects
the next slide just again reinforces
that
this is the ordinance the city has
adopted and these are the parameters
under which funds are collected and
allocated
in no particular order
we've kind of identified the projects
the first one is the neighborhood
improvements
and so to give you some cost estimates
on this the city used its pci for its
entire street network
the slide that you see has the entire
network on there with the different um
ratings that the the streets have it's
also been underlaid by areas of moderate
to low income so that can give you some
additional criteria where um funds could
go to improve those neighborhoods
the next slide
takes those areas where the pci is under
40 percent
those are the projects where the city
does the complete
restoration or reconstruction of those
streets
some other
items that were taken into this slide
was that any of the streets that are not
complete the project would include all
those elements so those are taking place
it's also the assumption is that the
existing right-of-way takes place so
there's no purchase of right-of-way
and so
the estimate to do those repairs
if the city is going to replace
utilities at the same time it would be
5.28 million
dollars per mile and then if it was just
the streets with no utilities it's 3.7
million per linear mile
park rehabilitation was another project
that was rated highly
the total for improvements that could be
done within the existing system just for
equipment and improvements to the parks
is 29.4 million
the slide includes all of the equipment
that
is in need or needs replaced or needs to
be provided in your existing park so
those are all capital purchases that
could go towards the rehabilitating
existing parks
this is also park rehabilitation but
there are i believe
11 or 13 parks on here that have
outdated
irrigation systems and so if
the city chose to rehabilitate the
irrigation systems for these parks it
would be 3 million dollars and it would
service almost 99 acres of park land
within the city
the city is in process and has for a
while continued to develop its trail and
multi-use paths
within the existing system
there are other improvements that could
be done
one of the items is where the trails
come to streets
there are 13 points that have been
identified that could use improvements
it's estimated that those would each
cost roughly a half a million dollars
and so that would come to a total of 3.9
million to make those improvements
and then the
continued completion of the las cluses
lateral and the tortugas trail
are also um
there are some improvements or
connections that need to be made
and and so for this purposes for the las
cruces trail it's roughly a little bit
more than a half a mile and then fortus
almost seven tenths of a mile
and both of those add up to
2.9 million to complete that that part
of the trail system
fire station number nine
this isn't changed from the earlier
presentation just some assumptions that
it would be
a facility similar to fire station
number three it would be located on the
east mesa
the goal is
city council district five and the
estimated cost is eleven and a half
million
this slide just shows you
the area that we have high growth the
metro verde rincon hills
area of the city
affordable housing was another item
that's
been discussed throughout this process
the
ask has been in the neighborhood of 4.6
million
this is something that
the city has identified in their efforts
the city does have a land bank and trust
fund
they have a housing plan to address
projects to
be targeted towards affordable and
attainable housing and so those of all
projects that can also be supported by a
geo bond funding
again this slide just talks about where
some of those projects would be targeted
it would be helping things like both
profit and
non-profits to do
housing at all levels whether it be
single family rental missing middle and
apartment complexes and it also would
help them with the funding of their
projects
an idea that was put forward was the
multi-purpose community center
some of the parameters that have been
talked about that would be resources for
the planning design and acquisition
again it was thought that this would be
the need would exist on the east mesa
there would be a need for 10 acres or
more and there are multiple city
activities and programs that could be
operated out of that site
because there was not definite plans
done yet on this there's not a total
figure for it but i know in the other
conversations they talked about
three quarters of a million for the
planning design and
construction plans for such a project
another one is again improvements to the
library system and so there were cost
estimates provided for both renovating
the existing branigan library
that estimate was at 4 14.4 million and
then there's also been discussions about
building a new branch library and the
estimate of that was
12.3 million and that does not include
land cost that is just actually
construction of the facility
a project that was started with your
geo bond project was the east mesa
recreation complex
on the left of this slide is the master
plan for full build out of that site
and then the graphic on the right is the
projects that are underway for
currently underway utilizing the 2018
funds
and so
the slide in the cost estimate is to at
full build out of that
that facility and so you see the
amenities that would be provided on this
slide
the multi-use fields the supported
parking development of trails and all
the ancillary
capital improvements to support that
type of utilization and that had a
estimate of 36 million to
totally build out the east mesa
recreational complex
and so this slide shows you uh those
estimates all together the last three on
the right side
i did not provide the funds for that
because it would depend at what level
you wanted to fund those
but just those projects um
provide
a
estimate of improvements or projects
that could be utilizing a geo bond at um
plus 142 million so
i don't think there's any issue with you
coming up with the use of the any geo
bond funds you support
as
staff has reviewed this and gone to the
public with this we've always presented
the
option that we're assuming that 23
million is the ceiling of the project at
that level you don't raise the taxes
it's the same
debt service rate that we currently
exist
and so this kind of is the transition
slide as the council focuses what
projects that you want to direct those
funds for as was presented your last
work session
there are two ends of the spectrum to
approach this one is to
focus on a limited number of projects
your funds or the other is try to
provide a little bit of funding to each
one
so this is a graphic you saw a couple
weeks ago this is arcs how they
approached
a methodology to allocating funds
one was the very focused at this stage
you could dedicate
in this
scenario you could dedicate all the
funds to the east mesa recreation
complex to move towards completing it
another one would be to split those
funds between the east mesa and the fire
station number nine
and then the last two options are where
you kind of spread those funds about so
you have one where you identify three of
the projects and the last one you try to
allocated to the
top five or six projects through their
process
this other scenario takes the second
survey into account and so the top five
priorities are provided on this
again if you wanted to focus it on to
the top priority from the survey that
would be 23 million for the neighborhood
reinvestment
and at that level
depending on what streets you chose
you could improve a little over six
miles of right-of-way or if it's the
most expensive not quite a mile of
improvements
a section alternative a second
alternative again is to split that funds
between
neighborhood reinvestment and a fire
station
the last two options are basically
taking the projects and dividing the
money evenly so
the third option is dividing
between neighborhood reinvestment
affordable housing and existing park
rehabilitation
and the last one is just taking those
and dividing it by five
so
that's one way to again begin the
discussion on how you prioritize those
projects
next steps as you say today we're here
at the work session
the schedule is on july 18th that we
would finalize
projects that council wants to
bring forward to the public and finalize
those budget questions
if there's additional meetings and
discussion that the council wants to
have
they can be scheduled for the august 1st
or august 15th meeting
our hard deadline is august 23rd when
the questions have to be provided to
the dona ana county clerk's office
and that ends the presentation
would be happy to
address any questions there are other
departments and staff that also can
address your questions
thanks steven i was just going to ask if
you go back to the list where you had
all the different one two three and four
and the different projects and the
amounts um
i think it was one before that
yeah because i'm later on i'm going to
ask council to give me a one two three
or four the next one please okay
i did that one yes okay
questions counselor flotus i thank you
mr mayor and thank you mr weir
so
the east mesa
recreation complex
um
isn't won't be done with the last uh go
money with a geo bond money that was
raised so
what you've presented today is an
additional amount
and if we take
if we just go
i guess year by year it won't be done
for about
another
eight years ten years
right
i really don't have a firm answer for
you that it depends on uh if other
funding sources were to come available
or other
funding in addition to go bonds but if
we went with geo bonds exclusively it
would take a good eight to ten years
based on that breakdown
i haven't penciled out the math well i
did and i'm asking you
now i'm just trying to follow that
because that's how it appears to be to
me which means that
the money that was allocated last well
what is true is that the money that was
allocated through go bond money
geo bond uh government obligation funds
um
wasn't enough weren't enough
uh to complete the complex so
what what um concerns me
is that we're um
voting on
uh these different items or we're
raising
some of these some of these things
weren't up last last time around two
years ago
so
my concern is that the monies that have
been allocated for certain
geo bond uh projects
uh
hasn't been enough
and
so
it's it seems to me that if something
has already begun
um
that we should focus on finishing those
on the other hand
there's a lot of need for
all these other go bond measures
and
then we um
so and the other thing is that um
for example because the east mesa
recreational complex hasn't been
completed
the anticipated eight pickleballs that
were planned to go up haven't gone up
and the pickleball people are back
that sounds good huh pickleball people
are back
so
and and which is wonderful because
apparently it's a wonderful sport and
once i become a retired retiree i'll um
you know look to see if i have time to
go play
but seriously
i'm concerned about that that we keep
voting we're voting on measures and yet
the previous uh round
didn't really complete the projects we
had anticipated would be done
so
how does that work and then are we going
to be perpetually going for go bond
money and then and and i'm not just
talking about the east mesa i've just be
just because that's in my district
um
but i mean across the board i mean how
long will we in perpetuity go on
you know doing the go bond election uh
uh
yeah elections so
how does that work mr weir uh mayor and
council flores i'll take a first step
and i see the calvaries come too
you're very fortunate
i think one thing to keep in mind is the
purpose of a geo bond typically it's
something for large capital projects
that don't have funding sources so
as a growing community you're always
going to have needs or the community is
always going to have needs for these
capital projects
and so
when you keep that in mind if at the 23
million level this time
you have an opportunity to continue to
raise large amount of money to do these
big projects and not increase the debt
service for the citizens and as the
community grows there's more funds that
get
collected for these projects the second
thing i want to say
is my understanding that the east mesa
property was master planned and there
was a realization even with the 2018
bond that it wouldn't be built out with
just one bond cycle that as it was
programmed and funds were available it
would continue to be
constructed
and so i think
we kind of use the terminology phases
when we
really need to talk about moving towards
full build out of the master plan
because we realized it would be
multiple phases and so
and then getting back to your last
question i think that's something
that if you look at this as a
capital funding mechanism and a way
to get those large projects that don't
have a dedicated funding source i think
the intent was for council to consider
keeping this as a program for the
community to raise funds so so it is it
is pretty much a perpetual
endeavor until we're able to complete a
given project
right i mean there's no other source of
funding for those projects well
the other thing that goes into geo
bonding is those are community questions
if the community supports them
this will be a mechanism that will be
used but if they don't support a certain
project
they won't be funded
david do you want to
thank you david
mayor councillor flores david sedillo
public works
director for the record
to answer your question yes based on
council's desire on how much funding
on a go bond cycle
to move towards completion
could take two or three cycles
i believe you saw the estimate from the
consultant at our last work session
their estimated cost to move forward and
completed at this point was 36 million
based on
funds or the dollar value that we will
have in 2024 does excuse me mr cedillo
otherwise i'll forget i'm sorry for
interrupting but so that money the 36
million would that be for the
uncompleted and for the prospective
uh round of go bond uh projects
councilor floyd is that is moving
towards completion after the first phase
i so
the 23 million isn't going to be enough
to complete what we already started that
is correct and that's why i said it may
take either two or three now at this
point in time the go bonds is the major
funding source
in future
years there may be opportunities for us
to go and seek other funding
opportunities what those
may be may come in the form of grants
so there are other options
to help
move
the completion along but at this point
in time what we have right now before us
is the go bonds
well that really makes me scratch my
head because um
it seems like the cost of everything has
gone up exponentially as well so we're
kind of going down almost like a
quagmire or quicksand or something where
we can't get ahead for being behind
can't catch up
so is that pretty much it i mean
at this point in time the snapshot of
today's dollars yes uh what that's going
to look like in four or five years that
may change but right now we're giving
our best estimate based on current
conditions and what that dollar value
will be
in 2024 wow thank you very much mr
cedillo thank you mr weir thank you
mayor
councilman cuomo
thank you
thank you so much david for the
presentation and mr cedillo
um
in the scenarios um
neighborhood reinvestment if
let's say today we said you know what
we're going to do 23 million towards
that you're saying that that's
we'd be able to do six miles of road
um mayor and councilman cuomo based on
the estimate of
what the cost is in those 20-24 dollars
um david i'm wondering if you can talk
to
the
feasibility of that right like
your capacity those kinds of things and
and maybe i'll tell you why i'm asking
this because i was just talking to ifo
about this last week and um
clearly this keeps coming up as the
number one priority for commune our
community right and
i know you know better than any of us up
here how often people call about the
roads and the condition of the road and
all of those things it's the one thing i
get the most calls about
um
and they so i think they're it's
important that you know if we're asking
for the public's input about priorities
that then we're able to say look if if
we can't do that because to me
you know doing 23 million dollars to
only get six miles of road right that's
heartbreaking and in many ways
and so i want to be able to talk about
well i'm i guess it's made me i'll say
speak for myself this is my opinion as
to why this would be difficult for the
city to pursue i'm curious your thoughts
on that
as the expert
mayor councilor ben como david cedillo
public works director
again and to answer your question six
miles of road is a lot of a lot of work
it is
so based on
the breakdown that we have
so
a mile will cover anywhere
between
12 to 16 blocks city city roadway
so based on that that's that's a lot of
work
so right now
you know we would be addressing those
streets that do have a pci or
condition index that's lower than 40.
those do need full rehabilitation or
reconstruction so they would include
utilities but the estimate was given to
have both projects with utilities for
full reconstruction or only
just the roadway
six miles in four years is a lot of work
we do have internal staff that will work
towards that
however
we do have the capability to outsource
through our consultants to help that
need if that is
council's desire to move forward with
that
with any portion of it it's going to be
a lot of work but we do have the means
both internally and with consultants to
get through those thank you david that's
helpful you said one mile would be about
blocks
correct so a quarter mile will be
anywhere between three to four blocks
okay so that's why i said anywhere
between 12 to 16 blocks will equal about
a city mile
roadway what is the reality in terms of
going forward with
no utilities what does that mean if
do you have some roads that you're
saying we don't actually need utilities
in this road or are you moving towards
if you're going to do full
reconstruction
it's got to be with utilities
so we definitely have a need throughout
all spectrums with both pavement
replacement and full reconstructions
however
the red streets are the ones that cost
are exuberantly high correct
so that's where the city the residents
would benefit from having those done
because then it both includes in the
funding
both money and funding to do both not
only the utilities but also the roadway
as well
so this also helps save
existing budgets to further other
projects along as well
david um as a public works director have
you talked to the folks working on go
bonds
around
an analysis as to what would be feasible
and doable like you're saying six miles
in four years would be wild right you
didn't say that i said that that's how i
interpreted it um have they talked to
you about
okay give us an analysis of what would
make an impact still and doable
if i was going to say
the best
part of that
i would i would prefer about 10 and a
half to 11 million dollars i think that
is a more reasonable
amount of cost not only for both
staff support but to be able to build
those out in a four-year time period
because we do have some projects that
are in design
however based on some of these red
streets and what
we want to look at we may not have a
design
so i think
a good success would be somewhere around
the 10 and a half 11 million thank you
david i really appreciate that
um
i don't think my next questions are for
you um oh man my notes are crazy today
actually they might be for you david um
the mid block crossings at the trails
what does can you tell us what that
means
as part of the presentation
yeah um so
the trail the further funding for the
trail system there was one portion that
was 3.9 million for
the crossings at 13 locations
right
what does that include does that include
the striping hawk systems what
is that
oh and you may be getting some help
mayor council ben cuomo i will defer to
kathy matthews from parks since that was
part of thank you
thank you david
kathy matthews landscape architect with
parks and recreation um the idea of the
mid-block crossings is wherever a trail
intersects with a road not at an
intersection and with the number of
trails that have been recently completed
there are quite a few of those
um areas the idea
the we don't know exactly what type of
mid-block crossing would be required
until a traffic analysis is conducted
and then designed but they could range
anywhere from a signage and a crosswalk
to a full-on hawk system where a
pedestrian activated cross crossing
system where a person presses the button
traffic is stopped on the street while
that person crosses similar to something
that's
currently exists on university avenue
for instance so it's an estimate
of what might be required and the idea
was in my opinion was to estimate a
little bit high
so that we could account for
um mid-block crossings that would
require the most
uh extreme intervention per se
thank you so much i appreciate that
information
um david
do you have any thoughts on so the east
mesa wreck facility
complex um that was priority four years
ago right i'm wondering if you all have
a thoughts
or analysis as to why it has placed so
low on the priority list this year
mayor and counselor ben como
i think
maybe when people were doing the
priorities they looked at what do i
already have
my home or my residence served by a
street
i already have neighborhood parks um so
i'd like that taken care of first
if you go back to the survey itself
um all the projects
looked like they were close to over half
the
likely voters to support them so and i
so
it was right at 50 percent support for
that project too so i i think that's
within the margin of error of support so
i i don't think people
don't support the development of it i
think there's just things that they
would like to see first as opposed to
something new
yeah
yeah i mean you know looking at this at
these results for sure i feel really
conflicted i thought this was going to
be much clearer process honestly um
but i feel really conflicted because as
counselor beta said last time we
discussed this you know she said i like
to see completion of projects which i
think is a really big deal and it's
really important and we don't want to
leave things half done
and when i look at this right it's like
the community is clearly telling us
we want to see investments in our
neighborhood we want to see better
streets we want to see affordable
housing we want to see improvements in
our parks and so
um
you know i
there and then there's a balance of some
of our internal needs as well like it is
very clearly that we need another fire
station to maintain public safety to
maintain the fire uh department's
ratings like those are really critical
things but they're kind of hard to tell
the public right especially the folks
who don't live in that area even though
i would
you know argue that the entire fire
system is impacted by a new station
i don't really know where i'm going with
this i guess i'm just you know i think
it's important that um
i say this out loud because it's how i'm
thinking about
balancing out these things
um and then the last thing i'll say so i
pass it on to my colleagues is that i
really do want to continue having a
conversation about a recreational center
a new one i think we've outgrown mirshai
as a community however given that
there's already a significant investment
on an east mesa complex
that we have a conversation about it
being somewhere else other than the east
mesa
you know and i think
you know often
older districts
don't get new parks and
so just
for fairness if we continue that
conversation outside of the go bond
discussion that we you know consider
those equity issues
um thank you mayor thank you david
tell us beta
thank you mayor and thank you david um
and thank you councillor ben como for
some of your comments i know that i've
been very clear with
me liking to have finished projects and
i actually see the east mesa kind of as
a reason why you have to have finished
projects this is one and we're going to
get an update but the public hasn't
gotten to access or use this type of
area so in their mind and what is the
value you know what has their public
dollars gone to they're not able to have
that tangible thing yet and so for me
it's not quite
surprising that it ranks lower because
it's not been able to be used and
showcased and so i think that's why it
is important to make sure that we are
finishing out those projects that we are
not wasting those dollars that we've
already put in
and making it a usable space
but with that in mind i really am glad
that we brought up the idea of equity
especially with older districts that
aren't going to get to see some of these
big spaces because we are already built
out in a lot of ways so as we go on with
go bonds i'd love to be able to have
that sort of layer attached to it so
that we can make sure that we are
balancing everything
of course one of the questions that i
did have
was on the trail
system and with this
by adding some of these does it complete
some of those loops as well i know
we were very close to some
mayor and councillor beta i'll take the
first stab and i think i saw
kathy move towards the front i believe
the
bottom two bullets of this slide
would
bring a couple of those trails more
likely to um completion and that we're
working on now
thank you david that that's correct the
idea is that the phase two what what's
titled here phase two las cruces lateral
would be complete
pardon me
the
the idea is to complete the section
between
bouts and main street in addition to any
kind of work that would be acquired
between bouts and university
potentially also from university south
to union and then the tortugas trail it
takes um the trail along the las cruces
lateral again from union south to
tortugas
okay thank you
i'm
very excited to see that because i know
that that's also needed for a lot of the
races that they have and things like
that too
and i think my final comment is just
i'm always in support of things that are
needed and so public safety is one of
those that obviously ranks very high and
then just a reminder
that i do think that
as being able to even
demonstrate the progress that we have
done with the ace mesa complex will be
important if we do decide to put that
back on the ballot
so that people still feel invested and
engaged
thank you
thank you counselor okay if there's no
more questions i think there's some
members of the public that wanted to
speak
uh i had been i was asked if there was
um someone from the affordable housing
initiative is are you all here
can you raise your hands please at her
here they had asked pretty much everyone
they had asked for a 15-minute
presentation so if i'm going to do 15
minutes then probably
not allow you all to speak again is that
okay
all right good
or they get two minutes each so yeah
mayor city councillor and staff my name
is beth bardwell and i'm co-chair of the
las cruces coalition for attainable
housing
and i have packets here for each of you
that i'm going to distribute and they
contain reports that demonstrate the
need for affordable housing in las
cruces is high
information on the impact of the covent
pandemic on housing instability
that illustrates the urgency of
increasing attainable housing in the
city
the results from the city's most recent
public opinion survey were affordable
housing initiatives were ranked as the
number two priority
planning documents that show attainable
housing has been a priority of the city
council for the last 10 years
beginning with the 2009 affordable
housing plan that recommended dedicating
a 5 million general obligation bond to
the affordable housing land bank and
trust fund to the 2020 elevate las
cruces comprehensive plan to the most
recent five-year strategic plan prepared
by the city manager
but data and plans
only tell part of the story
we are joined by several community
members who are working with community
and families for whom attainable and
affordable housing is a priority and
they will tell you the rest of the story
good afternoon mayor and counselors
thank you for this time my name is dave
lynch i'm the aarp new mexico state
president and lead in our local
community presence team i'm here to talk
about affordable housing we need to
ensure that our families as well as new
retirees coming to las cruces with lower
incomes are able to find properties
where they will spend less than 50
percent of their income on housing
new mexico is 49th in the nation for the
overall well-being of children a result
of having to decide due to lack of
affordable housing how to spend the
remaining income dollars
for seniors veterans and disabled over
30 percent of retirees in new mexico
depend on social security for a hundred
percent of their income
at an average thirteen hundred dollars
per month social security for retirees
in new mexico we can be assured that
many are receiving in the neighborhood
of less than a thousand a month
they then have to decide how they're
going to use a remaining income which
usually means a lack of medical care
nutritious foods
we need to help camp hope provide
housing for their residents i've seen in
visiting community of hope how proud
residents are of their housing
we can also look at adus to help
provide
housing to lower income people and that
will also provide income to the
homeowner
housing is especially affordable housing
for all is one of the eight domains of
liberal communities having funds
earmarked for affordable housing helps
our status as a member in the age
friendly community network and will help
in the implementation of elevate las
cruces thank you
hello good afternoon my name is rosa
morales and i'm here to support the
inclusion of
six million dollars for the affordable
and accessible housing and the next year
one i will be making my statement in
spanish to bring awareness to the needs
of a large number of the population that
i don't think
it has been giving the wide opportunity
to participate in this process
okay when i started
morales
gracias
good afternoon mayor
council my name is art madujo i'm the
programs and operations director for
tear the soul housing corporation
tds as you know we provide affordable
housing throughout the county throughout
the state and west texas we do
multi-family and we do single-family
housing development as well
we have been in existence next year
we'll be celebrating our 50-year
anniversary
so as you see there is a need for
affordable housing we've been here for
50 years you can't say much about
non-profits
being here for 50 years
and it occurs to me that
the need is still there after 50 years
so
in essence i see that the amount
allocated with six million dollars of
of this gold bond money for affordable
housing and i want to put into
perspective on how we manage our hud
funds to give you a sense an idea how
you leverage these funds because i
really think if we can find a way to
leverage that 6 million and turn it into
20 30 40 50 100 million dollars then
it's a win for everyone
so
i do have a pump pamphlet here and what
i'll do is i'm going to really want me
to share this with you johanna willis
garcia
we
are in a program with hud with the
consortium members throughout five
states
in
in the southern part of the united
states we work with colorado new mexico
arizona
texas and utah
what we do is we leverage
shop funds
which is for acquisition
construction and development
each lot is allocated fifteen thousand
dollars
in the past ten years
we have administered twelve million
dollars to our consortium partners
providing over a thousand units of
housing
and leveraging 109 million dollars
so as you can see
half if you take half of that 12 which
is your 6 million that's allocated for
out there
for this affordable housing has the
potential that you could hit 50 million
dollars
here in las cruces
we leverage as much as we can but right
now we are running into a mod because
what we're finding is that as we do
affordable housing for the income that
we serve
it's hard to compete it's hard to do it
when your construction packages go up 30
percent
there's a there's a population out there
that's in need
and i don't know if covet
was a blessing for us
because it has brought in more
clients to tds and we're not talking low
low-income clients now we're talking
people who are making our families
making 60 70 80 000
who are looking for affordable housing
because they now they see the need that
with rising costs with inflation gas
food
they want to control the housing price
so
as you all can see if you really take
this in consideration
and see with how much you can leverage
just that six million dollars thank you
good afternoon mayor and council members
my name is reverend carolyn wilkins
and i'm a minister i have a
church here called inspirational
ministries
and we have donated
to the homeless we've donated to
children we donated clothes and other
things
in the city
but what i want to talk about today is
it's hard to keep donating without doing
something
and providing affordable housing
when we build affordable housing we
enhance the public health of our
community
a physical and mental well-being of the
adults and children
are enhanced through safe
secure and stable shelter
households that are cost burden
those that spend more than 30 percent of
household income on rent or mortgage
have limited ability to withstand
economic crisis or job loss as was just
spoken
our challenges ultimately lead to
housing instability
and other major sacrifices that impact
health and welfare
for example unaffordable
housing hinders the family's overall
ability
to pay for necessities that support good
health
such as healthy food
health care visits
energy or home maintenance
adults who are homeless
or housing insecure are less likely to
have goal-oriented thinking and more
likely to experience psychological
distress
substance use
intimate partner violence
and symptoms of trauma
and i really hope you're paying
attention
to these things because they impact all
areas
in fact i'm
working with two of the council members
ben como and mayor pro tim gandra
on a
homeless solution
for the unhoused with the interfaith
organization that we're building in las
cruces
but i want to also talk about the impact
on children
children learn more when stable housing
allows for school attendance
in their community
and children who are homeless
are housing insecure exhibit more
anti-social behavior
less pro-social behavior more sleep
problems
and have difficulty
staying awake and advancing in school
children are more likely to meet
developmental milestones
when raised in stable
healthy housing
in which they are not
exposed
to lead mold
vermin or other threats
we have a significant opportunity
i hope we can move up affordable housing
in this matrix
that
puts affordable housing in section
number three
i don't know what that means but it
doesn't look like it's a priority
for this council and i'd like it to
become one
thank you
good afternoon mayor
councillors mayor pro tem
my name is shannon reynolds and i'm here
to talk about a little bit about
veterans and a lot about
affordable housing
first thing there's about 7 900 veterans
in the city of las cruces if you taking
just a cursory poll
it appears that most of many of our
homeless are veterans and the veterans
are significant challenge that meets a
lot with what
the last person just said and that is
that they're very complex
and just getting them a place to stay is
not the only solution and we requires a
lot more like surrounding services to
support them like many of our our
other lower income families as well
for the aces group so veterans kind of
fall into that in a special category as
well so along with looking at the
affordable housing i think we have to
get a little more creative in the way
that we approach this and not just say
look we're going to build units and have
people come you know we built the
unit down on solano it's supposed to be
mostly for veterans and i think very few
veterans have actually taken advantage
of that so maybe that's not the
exact solution we need maybe we need to
be a little more creative with it
and so i want us to think of that
something else that i think is to look
at
is that donaiana county is currently if
you look at the rent
uh the amount of rents that
rental units that are not available we
actually have less rental units
available in this city than any place
else in new mexico right now we're
running at like 1.5 percent
uh occupants
vacancy rates in the state of new mexico
that means that even if you wanted to
rent an apartment and it was affordable
it'd be almost impossible to get because
it's just not there
same thing with a lot of the low-income
housing the low-income housing when we
really need
isn't being built can't be built again
because of this gentleman's pointing out
that the costs are higher up to 30
percent
so we have to stop and think okay how
can we impact that is one of my thoughts
a couple things i thought about is we're
going to have to be flexible about how
we react to the changes in the economy
the inflation the job situation we have
to think how does our investment in
affordable housing actually make it
easier for people who are not getting
raises with higher inflation going to be
able to afford it so we've got to think
some financing solutions along with that
another thing that i can tell you that i
think directly impacts the cost of
housing especially for new construction
is the services that you provide with
inspections
plans
efficiency of getting out there to look
at things working with the builders to
make sure that they are not suffering
with more carrying charges for a project
that you could do in 30 days it takes
six months
that's in the county as well we're
having the same problem we don't have
enough resources at the county or at the
city to make sure these these builders
can get these projects done in a record
amount of time so i think we need to
look and try to work together with them
to try to do some more of that as well
timely inspections timely approvals
looking inefficient energy efficiency
and more inspectors
based on our goal not based on what's
currently happening so projecting 2035
2025 what our needs going to be we need
the resources now to make that a reality
10 years from now
okay thank you
so i didn't realize you were all going
to do what you just did so who hasn't
spoken yet or have all you spoken
because i was going to give you a couple
more minutes if needed all of you got it
done well good
okay
is there anybody else who'd like to
speak george
i just wanted to finish with say thank
you for your time today of course
george pearson
the new trails haven't even been
officially opened yet and but i believe
they are being very well used
in the last cycle
35 million dollars of bonding was done
with 2.7 of that towards the trails
if we just uh take that same proportion
with 23 million dollars we'd have about
a million and a half million seven that
would go towards the trails i think that
would be a good balance
to plug into the chart as you work with
there's uh
where to spend that it can still be
decided by staff we've talked about
connections we've talked about safe road
classes those are all needed
and something else to remember trails
are not just recreational they are
transportational needs and that fits
exactly with the
affordable housing discussion that comes
in
the cost of living is not just the cost
of housing it's also the cost of
transportation and that's where we need
equity
in where we build our trails and how we
spend our money thank you
so david i guess you're up so the only
question that i have is if you notice on
i guess there's a slide
so
i guess what i was trying to get at is
so
prior to seeing slide 25 i just seen 24.
so
and of course they're a little bit
different
so
what is slide 25 the second survey or
what
mayor just again provide some context
the first slide is what you saw two
weeks ago this is
arc they walked you through
one
way to look at the various projects
this one placed more of an emphasis on
completing ones you've already started
and so that was kind of
how they started on the left and then
moved to the right
the second one is really just an
example this
puts the priority on what the public
said in the second survey
so
those were the ones that they
prioritized and that there was also over
60 percent support for those type of
initiatives and
really the money was just
for
demonstration purposes um
there's not been any analysis into it
it's just
to let you look at
one
various ways that you could
divvy these projects
okay i have a question of chief jason
smith on the fire station so chief
can you tell me i'm gonna i'm gonna
guess that you probably look at the
certain demographics that after the
area
reaches a certain percentage of
residents that you probably think okay
we're going to need a fire station here
are we one what is that number and are
we at that number have we surpassed it
i'm trying to get a need for the how
quickly you need to build
station number nine
i think you may or members of city
council fire chief jason smith
so we did not analyze a number as far as
population
what we looked at and what we presented
during the census update presentation
was our response time to that area as
well as all of the growth
so if you looked at the number of
permits and actual construction that's
occurred on that side of
of our city and our response area it's
outpaced
even our most recent station station 8
at east mesa public safety complex so i
can't point to a certain number of
this many residents
okay i see so it's response time so for
example the other day i have a new
employee who moved on some street off of
sonoma ranch boulevard north i i just
kind of figured i'd probably take me
five minutes to get there took me almost
15 and it's pretty far
so so it's the response and so that's
would be district would be number nine i
presume
would cover that in that area mayor fire
chief jason smith yes sir that that area
we're looking at with the pud that came
before the council a few weeks ago
locating that station at sonoma ranch in
central
so that station would serve that area it
also gives us an opportunity to look at
what type of response unit we put in
that area to maximize our iso points and
also the service that we provide for
that area as it continues to develop and
we see commercial infill come into the
area
yeah and when you look at it i mean
that's and there's still more homes to
go even north of that
so i mean if that took
15 minutes to get there i mean of course
i'm driving the speed limit i think you
guys go a little bit faster but you'll
still get there not a whole lot quicker
but
um so i think that is pretty urgent i
mean it's going to take at least a
couple years before we even get if we
were to move forward with it if it was
to pass
and before it's actually functional
you're probably looking at at least two
years and in two years there's going to
be a lot of growth out there
yes sir that is correct and even looking
at vehicle acquisition uh
purchasing an apparatus it's 24 to 25
months lead time now on a fire apparatus
so baby can you go back to the one the
the first one that had the fire station
and then it had
one more 20
that one
okay so
so
david as far as the east mesa recreation
complex now i know that the first geo
bond we identified monies for pickleball
and i know that
when
residents came to us
we felt that we could at least get the
that area prepped in the event we should
be successful and do eight more
so if we were to
with that 6.5 would that be enough to
address that additional those additional
eight
pickleball giving a total of 16 which i
think was the minimum number they needed
for for tournaments or something to that
effect
mayor david cedillo public works
director uh yes
that if you were to allocate
six million that would incorporate those
eight pickleball
courts and make that a fool
full of additional eight more because
the first steel bond had eight okay
correct
and then for our i'm sorry
yeah
for our housing initiative people that
showed up here um
beth or whoever wants to address this
would that affordable housing
initiatives of 6 million
the adequate start
yes
thank you mayor for the question
mayor city council and staff yes 6
million is what we would request for
the affordable housing initiative that
money geo bond money would go into the
trust fund
and land bank for acquisitions and it
could be leveraged
significantly as
art from tierra del sol was explaining
and so that we think it could
fund several projects
city-wide throughout the city
do you want to is there anything more
you want to add to that
yeah yeah so um
i'm sorry teach your name again oh art
motherhood of the south housing
corporation
so the six million dollars that that
that's a great start
so for instance just to give you an
example
um
as you all know we have brought some
light tech program
projects to
city council before low income housing
tax credit projects
and there is a need for rental housing
and what they like to see mfa especially
mfa they want to see an investment from
the city
minimum a million dollars
now
if done right that financing mechanism
can turn into a soft second loan which
can be paid back with the cash flow from
the project
so say it's not that it's going to be
where a lot of people think that this
money's just going to get thrown in
there's a grant but if you do this
correct and you do it right you can get
that money back
and revolve it
that way you can find other projects
going forward so that's where all your
leveraging is coming in from so
that's a good thing to think about okay
thank you
and sonia maybe you addressed this
on the f or the four million dollar fund
on this what
what was that for or what is that if you
were on number four and it says spread
what is a 4 million spread being and it
has note for the fund under parks and
rec
mayor that's a a typo that you caught i
was supposed to erase that oh that was a
typo okay so so sonia wasn't looking for
any money
okay
counselor karen you have your lineup
yes thank you i i was just i just had a
question um i'm trying to sort of do a
lot of math and my
on my little paper here and i also have
all of the survey results thank you for
sharing those with us including the
qualitative ones which are really
interesting
and i've been
reading them with intensity
since getting them but i'm curious which
among are
i'm trying to figure out what what
babies can be split part in the metaphor
but
it seems like some babies are easier to
split than others and could you just let
us know which of those might be
opportune for splitting versus not
mayor and council koran
i believe that a fire station is
something that you would want to put the
majority of the funds to
i think the the rest of that are on this
particular thing um could be split
uh depending on what what's taking place
um
i don't know
any of the other staff
feel the the same way but a lot of the
the parks rehabilitation
and those items where you can do
certain tangible things
i'm sure that the the money could be
allocated
to those type of projects
let me go to a chart that has all of
them so it might be
so i think like these mesa recreation
complex you could identify
various elements of that programming
that could be funded
i said far station number nine i think
even the affordable housing
any funds for that would be
positive
the library is something that would
probably be less likely
especially for a
new expansion it'd be harder to divvy
that funds out some renovation funds
could probably be provided
neighborhood improvements obviously they
would utilize
whatever funding they could get the same
thing with trails it can be blocked
broke down to smaller projects um
the
additional fields and multi-purpose
center i think smaller amounts can be
allocated to do studies
new parks you may want to look at that
as part of development and your impact
fees that are related to that and may
not be as critical
for geo bond and hopefully haven't
misspoken sonia
thank you that that helps thanks
thank you david
um
and maybe this question is for more than
just david grant staff parks and rec
staff i'm curious if
um
what other means of funding have we
discussed as a city have you discussed
as a city
um for finishing out
um the east mesa recreation complex
that's outside of bonds
mayor and counselor ben como can i pass
that to you sonia
mayor members of council sony delgado
director parks migration
at this point in time with regards to
these mesa recreation complex we don't
have another funding source we have
looked at grants grants works very
closely with us to find funding for
facilities
one in particular we want to go after a
rec center
but we there's those are very difficult
to get the very large ones um and it
would be difficult to have a lot of
smaller ones to try and finish that
thank you sonya
um i mean i guess i'll just say this now
because it's just on my heart and if i
don't say it i'm just going to drive
myself crazy with how much i feel torn
about many of these things
um
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i think that a fire station
is critical
for me that's
going to be one of my top priorities
affordable housing will too
and honestly
i would love to see the rest go into
neighborhood improvements and i
as much as it pains me i feel like
we have to invest in the wreck facility
i mean the rec complex
it's going to be a bad look if we have
this giant unfinished project that we
don't continue to invest in and so
you know as i sit here and look at all
the options like on page 24 i think
number three is the most critical if
anything
potentially
reducing the six million for affordable
housing to five and then you know giving
that to the fire station to fully
complete it out but
um
i just want to say that out loud before
i change my mind again it's almost like
i'm sitting at a restaurant looking at
the menu and can decide what to eat
but 23 million dollars worth of that so
thank you
mayor and councillor bin como something
else that you might think of you'll
notice that several of these projects
have broken out
recreational
items and so
you may consider
writing a more
flexible question that you could give
certain discretion
exactly how you want to spend that
the negative or downside to that is it's
harder to go out to the public and say
this is what we're going to do with
those monies and there is potentially
less trust
david what happens if let's say
the market stables out
and things don't cost an arm and both
legs what
what happens if you finish a project
under budget is that ever happened first
of all
yes
what happens with go bonds if you finish
a project
under budget
mayor and council i don't know
david you'd never be able to get away
with an answer any other time
mayor councillor ben como david seville
public works director
based on how that's placed on the ballot
uh typically it will only be used within
that question
so if it is for
say park improvements
listed in there they can spend it if
they're under budget they can use that
additional money for those park
improvements
if it's for
any other project
whatever's under you can utilize it
based on how that question is written
and voted on
let's say so last time we were here
right i asked the question about why is
the new fire station double the cost of
the one we just built and the answer was
inflation and all of those things
um and maybe it won't you know balance
out or whatever like maybe things will
never go back to how they used to be
um more affordable but let's say for
something as specific as the fire
station if you know we say on the ballot
it's 11 million dollars and it comes
under budget what happens then with
something so specific
councillor ben como thank you for the
question uh actually with the site
that's been proposed
from the pud there are still other
improvements that need to happen for the
site and for the roadway leading up so
any cost savings could be moved over to
them okay thank you david i appreciate
it both of you and of course also
don't forget that if you if it really is
that significant you can apply that back
toward the bond and reduce that amount i
mean that just pay it off quicker
so but i've never seen that happen
but if it does but that was my question
was are these estimates based on
today's inflationary prices
because if if this doesn't get built in
a couple years it's very possible that
it could actually come down so that was
a great very good question
so these prices were based on
mayor they were very conservative
measures they took into
account the
inflation the
supply train and the fact that projects
may not be
allocated for another two years so the
likes of their they're very conservative
figures
and and counselor bingo i i appreciate
your comments
the the reason why i was okay with the
difference of a million between eleven
five and ten five is because if you
recall council passed the safety
ordinance of public safety and so
that was going to provide probably
enough to make up the difference in
those two years so but i mean whatever
council wants to do they can do but
that's a great reminder mayor thank you
so i was going to ask um
the
in fact i was going to ask on the east
mesa complex
if they could trim that to six and the
fire station to 10
leaving half a million dollars each for
well i didn't even ask george what what
it would take to get the bike lanes you
know if that was five hundred thousand
dollars to help elevate i think we're
bronze right now if that helps us
elevate to silver and then the other
half a million for parks and rec to do
some improvements you i mean there's
always something seems like
especially for soccer fields and and
that's just a little bit of money and
now you've kind of
you know spread it out a little bit more
but i didn't know if that was going to
be
detrimental
so
airport
thank you mayor
i thought it was time to weigh in and
thank you mayor and
my council here
for me i think fire is our fire station
is is number one priority um
close second is affordable housing for
sure but i want people to be reminded
that
um
safety is paramount for for us for me
and
you know i appreciate chief reminding us
about the call how quickly it takes to
get from one call to the next and if we
don't do this
it takes from other
facilities right because we're taking
too long and we don't want that and we
want our rating to remain where it's at
so i think that's really important when
we express that our whole city can
can really be challenged if we don't
if we don't
do this
the affordable housing
i think is is
is next and and then the neighborhood
improvements i think streets has always
been um something else and
i want to
really honor folks that
that have took the time to fill out the
um
the survey i mean i think that's a
record 2000 plus
folks that participated in this
survey i think i'd love to see the
spread and who and demographics and ages
and whatnot but but i think that's
really important and i think every day
we get
some concern about streets
and especially streets in my area or
low-income areas areas where more
impoverished
streets that have never had
really any improvements
from the time at least i've i've been
here and so i'd really like to see a
list david if we could of those streets
there
you can just send the link i know of the
less than 40. i think i think that will
be very important um and and then along
along the lines of mayor i was i was
wondering um
i think i think trails are also
important right in in our park our park
improvements those are all quality of
life issues so david can you move to 25
this is a really hard
choice
that we have to make and i'm here
stressing out about how can we get the
better bang for our book but make sure
that all
pockets of our community or cohorts of
com our community are are considered
um
and so i'm wondering if council would um
mayor talked a little bit about reducing
some of that money and and giving more
but i was wondering if in the first
three we could go even to 5.6
and um also include some funding in our
recreation our east mesa recreation
center so i mean i don't i don't know i
kind of figured um
i'm hoping that
with what councilor ben gomo and concert
and mayor
um spoke of that as we are building i
don't think we're going to build
tomorrow or
january 2023 after these pass and i'm
thinking very positively about this that
maybe there's a chance that things would
continue to go down as some of that
construction i'm hearing and supplies
are going down
reduction in price i think i've heard um
and and so
i i'm just trying to
to also consider all the things that
folks have indicated here and really
honor what people
are trying to tell us and so i'm i guess
i'm more inclined to go for the spread
so that we can we can fund more
and just continue to look for that
funding go for capital outlay um funding
as as the years come
as as the years
um
for the next legislative session so with
that mayor i'll turn it back over to you
thank you
i'm sorry i was a little confused so
which of these and this of course this
one changed did you want to go back to
the other one i did i did i went back
and forth so 25 i stuck with 25. oh okay
and and i was really looking at the
spread number three and going from 5.6
um but as i'm looking at in the way i'm
speaking and the way i'm feeling very
emotional about all these things because
i think they're all very important and i
feel like
mayor and councillor gandra
three and four there was no analysis and
those weren't tried to be matched up
with projects it's
the 23 million divided by three and
divided by five
so um there's a lot of flexibility if
you okay to take other projects okay
so mayor pretend you're talking about
this slide or the other slide no this
one here mary was talking about so you
were talking about number four i i was i
like number four as i'm even speaking my
mind has changed because i was looking
at three and calculating even if we went
5.6 and left some additional
um you know to i don't know
what it what is hard for me is
you gave that picture of east mesa
recreational center phase one what space
to and what it would cost and what are
you considering in that phase two with a
cost you don't have that currently
mayor and councillor
gandra
i
i see mr trevino is going to be here
also but
these are all amenities that have been
identified on that master plan that are
necessary to complete
future phases or the build out of it and
so
staff would probably look at the
opposite if you allocated a certain
amount of money we would try to knock
off as many of these sure that fashion
as we could
mayor mary pochem gandra tony trevino
public works for the record um just want
to come up here to kind of help uh
spread some light on this east mesa
um
we have with the first phase we have
done a lot of preparation for the next
phase of the east mesa a lot of the
utilities so we're kind of we went into
the project with the intent of
quickly going into the next phases a lot
of grading a lot of
utility work to kind of get ready for
this next phase and just to kind of put
it to um
like the lighting there's no lighting as
part of phase one that would have to be
left out of a lot of the parks the
lighting is about starting to correct me
from wrong about three million dollars
just for the lighting for these parks
um so safety a lot of those parks none
of those parks those amenities will have
lights so they will not be able to be
used past dusk for a level sport so that
is one of the big things that's going to
have to be put into the next phase which
is about three to four million dollars
how much again about three to four
million dollars just for the lighting
for those parks and that was that was
valued out of the first phase just
because of cost
so i'm just going to want to share that
with you also for some of the project
history
thank you thank you
thank you mary i appreciate that i don't
have really anything else to say i'm
just i've got another question for chief
um smith so
chief
right now the department is iso one so
is there a certain response time that
that the city must maintain to continue
to keep that that ranking of one because
i'm just concerned as there's more and
more houses get built further north
that that time time elapse might get
longer
and that's why i think the time is of
the essence for fire station nine
mayor members of council fire chief
jason smith so response time is one
facet of the iso evaluation they look at
our dispatch center as well as our water
utility
even things like fire and hydrant
inspections as well as the tools and
equipment and daily staffing
so
the prolonged response time is going to
be one one factor of that overall rating
but as we get more and more infill more
residents living there more call volume
obviously that starts to impact
the service we provide more towards the
customer so times where there is a
structure fire our delayed response is
is jeopardizing lives and property and
then on ems calls like every minute that
we're delayed is more damage to
your heart your brain your lungs so we
try to keep our response times close to
nfpa 1710 as we can but even given the
size of our our community our strategic
business plan we look at a seven minute
response 90 percent of the time
okay thank you
i know we keep going back and forth can
we just stay on maybe 24 and then let if
council wants to
deviate from that because that's a
little bit easier that's what was
presented two weeks ago
that's kind of what i thought was going
to show up today not 25. on
sly 25
um
you know based on this oh i'm sorry
counselor go ahead
no sure thank you um here um i was just
going to say for slide 24 my pick would
be number three as well with the caveat
that
we would look um during the legislative
session to make
solvency for fire station nine
um for anything extra and then
still going uh for the affordable
housing but then the east mesa complex
and just because
i do think we
we marketed that the last time around as
a complex and the vision of what it
would be in full
and so i think that's also another
reason for us to be able to to deliver
on that
thanks okay
did you have something counselor
background
yeah i'm just thinking uh thank you
mayor
thank you everyone who has
who has presented and commented so far
so when looking through the agenda
packet
i looked at the percentages and i looked
at the statistics but i also went
through all of the comments um which
are a mishmash and i can assure anyone
who commented whatever you said somebody
said the exact opposite so
if if you feel like your voice isn't
being heard um
everybody else does too um
i'm
i'm listening to all of this and i think
i'm thinking a little more
philosophically or conceptually about
how so many of these things
blend together and i refer to the
comments because i feel like one of the
overriding themes is please take care of
what we have
and who we are so when i look at
reinvestment in existing neighborhoods
and i hear about affordable housing
the lines between these things
are are very blurred
and maybe i'm just saying that because
it makes my heart feel a little better
that i think
the separations between these projects
are perhaps not as stark
as we think they are um
i appreciated thank you so much to the
folks who spoke on affordable and
attainable housing pointing out what a
wide
swath of people that affects because i
think the the default position is that
that's referring only to our unhoused
neighbors
and it is but it's not i i believe um
the representative from tiara del sol
pointed
people making sixty thousand dollars are
still in need of affordable housing so
i all that to say that i i think that
maybe the divisions between
these
initiatives and these priorities are
are maybe a little a little closer or a
little narrower than
than they may seem at first um
and also while we have
well we have slide 24
up here
i'm also
tending to favor option three right now
i feel the
the need for fire station 9 is
is undeniable and
again
for those who
for those who feel like well that only
favors one small portion of the city
speaking of someone with a little more
than working knowledge of how
fire works
because
because my husband's out there fighting
fires
if district five is
is overburdened then your district is
also being overburdened because
when they when station five is trying to
haul bud out to their thing other
stations are covering them so don't
think that something that is taking care
of district five is leaving your
district out we are
we're a big team and a big family here
um
so
so yeah thanks for asking mayor that's
no problem counselor flores thank you mr
mayor i have a question for
director delgado
so
on this
on page 24 we have parks and recreation
improvements and
4 million
has been allocated
and
just in one spread
so um which would be the last one which
would be what eight years from now
or how does that work yeah
um
the spreads
they it would be uh if the bonds were
approved they would be allocated in the
next four years yeah the next four years
so my question to you uh director
deleado is
um we i think it was
either in a bad dream or in the
newspaper that
our our facilities are
falling apart or maybe somebody sent us
an email
or again maybe it was a nightmare but it
they did it did show that a lot of the
facilities are decrepid
oh it was an email and i think i shared
it with you are you sure i can't
remember
but anyway
aren't there city funds or whatever that
maintenance for park it was a it was a
bathroom i can't remember the park
but i know we've had different comments
from the community
at different so is there is there a fund
excuse me a a line item
allocation in the budget for parks and
recreation to
have a
facility maintenance
or
structural maintenance
mayor members of council council flores
sonia delgado director of parks and
recreation
we do have a line item that we were able
to get last fiscal year and this fiscal
year we have approximately a hundred
thousand dollars that were given to us
for
parks and recreation amenity improvement
and or replacement
when it comes to the facilities in the
in our facilities i.e a restroom we work
closely with facilities because they're
the ones who maintain it so when we have
issues we go to them and ask them to
assist us with either painting
new signage uh
help with the uh
the restrooms and anything that's inside
that facility that isn't directly tied
to us
but it sits in one of our facilities
so
knowing that some of these
parks
i am talking about the bathrooms the
toilets and
um i think some of them need replacement
the sinks the floors the walls the doors
and the bathroom stalls
um
so that is
separate and apart
from parks and recreation improvements
all together or maybe that's something
that mr pealey can address and i'm just
trying to figure out
uh whether
you know because i i tend to agree that
the spread 3 would be a better way of
spending our go bond money
on the other hand
you know our parks and recreation
improvements are those are those
improvements that i'm talking about or
is that just
facilities maintenance and is there
money for that that's what i'd like to
know what what what do these
improvements really mean is going to be
a new plant a new tree or what
um council florida's so when it comes to
the parks and recreation improvements
we're talking about replacement of trash
cans tables shade structures water
fountains or putting some in new signage
fencing
soccer goals things of that nature
when it comes to the actual restroom
facility like i mentioned before i will
work directly with facilities to try and
find funding for that
um and we do work in concert together so
um but but their responsibility is for
that actual facility
okay so then maybe this is a question
for ms dimouche
is there enough money in facilities to
take care of
what maybe this
pnr parks and recreation
allocation i mean gold bond money would
be
used for
so mayor mayor protem and council floors
the facilities which is under the city
manager's office does have a budget for
redoing bathrooms you know anything that
any of the departments or buildings need
to have repairs on
as far as renovations i do know that
they
in the cip they do have some funding for
ongoing maintenance every year in the
cip we we budget that but at this time
council floors i don't have any numbers
in front of me but what i would
recommend and i'll get with alex flores
who is our new facility's
manager and try to get that information
to you
well thank you and it'd be great to have
that information before we vote on this
on july or whatever it is
well it's going to be sometime in july
so the um
so parks and recreation improvements
what does that encompass then mr thank
you so much
director delgado and thank you mr moosh
mr uh where what exactly then
is this uh parks and recreation
improvements is it playground
is it
you know development of a play area or
more grass or what
mayor and councilman flores it's just
what um ms delgado said it would be
replacing trash cans replacing shelters
tables
putting up signage replacing fences it
everything that's within your existing
parks would be eligible for to use those
funds
thank you mr warren thank you mr mayor
thank you councillor cuomo thank you
mayor um i just i don't mean to
complicate things more but i just wanted
to go back to the point you had made
earlier about
um going with number three but then sort
of taking that um 0.5 from both
uh the right complex and the fire
station and then maybe even
affordable housing to five
having a full round two million
for
perhaps parks
improvements i just would i would hate
to have
questions on the ballot for
you know half a million dollars per i i
don't think that would
go well with the public and
um if if we're going to do something
like that to have sort of a bigger
number
for in one question and then that could
be um you know it honestly it could be
some finishing up of the trails or parks
improvements i think either of those
would be
um important but that's sort of how i
was looking at this because i thought
you made a good point about
making that number
you know
rec complex six
fire station 10 going to the state
legislature thinking about the public
safety
fee
and then five for affordable housing and
rounding up you know having additional
two million
you know council mecca i could support
that i just would prefer that
and i know david was just using some
examples but on that two million that
it'd be a real you know some real
facility something that's that you can
see
you know instead of
what did you say there was um
renovating some picnic tables or
whatever
playground equipment or trash bags you
know not trash cans you know i don't
think that's good just something
significant something that
that you can
you know
see
i think would be good i'm okay with that
with trimming that
because i really think that
in in a couple years it's very possible
those prices can come down a little bit
and so and then we've especially for the
fire station we've got that uh impact
fee fire public safety fee that that i
think and then worst case scenario we're
going to get that thing built if we have
to pull money from our other
reserves or whatever we'll get it
completed but i think it shows again in
the game to the public that we're not
just trying to just put everything on
here to say here are you guys funded you
know we'll figure out some ways here as
well
can also correct
i just want to sort of elevate that in
reading all of the comments and and
looking at the other thing i really have
to hear that folks are thinking about
their roads and and that's not included
in this in this representation and i
really appreciated the graph that showed
overlapping areas of
of
low pci and low income
neighborhoods and i really feel like i
would like to advocate for
i think i think about the
suburbanification factor as someone in
district five um and so i have to
acknowledge that i i am coming to this
from a place where our pci collectively
is probably like 75 if i had to guess
not not to put you on the spot with the
math but um
so it's kind of a different scenario but
i do feel like
concentrating resources and that
includes the east
adding on to the east mesa recreation
complex outside of the heart of town
um for me i feel like in the face of
seeing how many folks really want their
roads to be improved and how how we have
a very clear measure about how we could
do that and who it would affect i really
want to elevate that that be included
as
i don't know how i think it could be
included as part at least part of this
to show that we're committed to
improving roads um
in the city and in particular parts of
the city that may feel generally
neglected so
you know counselor i think those are
good comments but i have to say that the
amount that's going to be needed for
roads is going to be significant i mean
to
we won't be able to do a whole lot with
a million dollars but i will say or two
million dollars but i won't ask
david cedillo or tony
if they've ever
looked at like for example we there's a
certain amount of recurring monies that
we use for road maintenance and road
construction i don't know four or five
million something like that
and i'm i'm wondering if we've ever
looked at using that as the funding
source to actually go out and get get a
five or ten year bond for a large amount
50 million or
you know and then using that to pay it
each year so that we really make that
impact but i can assure you what's
interesting is
several years ago when the city
undertook the largest rehab
reconstruction project in the city
you know we're getting complaints about
all these orange barrels all over the
city i mean it's you you try to improve
the area and
you get criticized you get criticized
for the areas being
messed up too so i mean but nonetheless
what i'm trying to get at is
is
is i think that
if we can possibly look at that as a
future project to use that that revenue
source because it is a revenue source we
fund it every year
to use that as to pay the debt service
on a larger bond then we can we can
focus on good parts of the city
throughout the city to get those streets
done
and then economies of scale will allow
us to probably do even more streets than
we would normally because it's going to
be a bigger project so david
mayer david sedillo public works
director
yes typically we'll cycle bonds for
street flood we do have gas tax that
that comes in roughly anywhere between
depending on the year anywhere between
eight to ten million dollars that gets
cycled through there we have not gone
for larger amounts but that is something
that we can definitely take a look at
and seeing how we can advance that a
little bit further
when you say use the money that's
already allocated that's the maintenance
fund
that
council currently approved to help spend
some of that debt down that way we can
get a larger amount and make a little
bit larger dent in our our pci rating
all right thank you
mayor can i just add to that because i
think it's
i want to
honor that as well what you're saying
again
you know if it was up to me we'd do 23
million dollars for all the rounds david
and you'd have a job forever
um but
i because it's the biggest thing i just
also feel like
um
i mean this should have come to work
session mayor like we have to figure out
get creative and be bold about different
ways that we
fund street pavement that isn't just
bonds right that is
from the state from the federal
government i don't know right but i
think it's really critical that we
have a much more focused conversation on
street maintenance industry improvement
projects
uh council sure we can work session on
that and
i just i just feel that
we have to be real cautious if we put
street maintenance or reconstruction
streets on a geo bomb because people are
going to know
wait a minute
5 million 2 million whatever the million
is they're going to say which streets
are there and then we have to identify
them and then people may not vote for
it's he's gonna say well you know i've
been living on the street for 35 years
and it's crumbling i'm voting now on
that one you know so mayor i wasn't
advocating
what i'm just saying but i'm just saying
yeah yeah i'm just saying that i think
we really need to look at the work
session on on bond cycling and maybe
looking to take that amount of money for
a larger bond so that we can address the
streets because i think again the public
expects us on regular maintenance and
things of this nature to take care of
that through our own budget now these
larger projects you know like whether
it's the the fired uh station or the
east mesa complex i mean this is
something that all citizens of las
cruces will enjoy and i appreciate
councillor graham's explanation about
how when one department is out you know
they're keeping the rest of the city
safe and so that's a great explanation
but i just wanted to say that about the
roads
mayor
i've heard there
has been a general consensus that you
want to pursue a question related to the
fire station affordable housing and the
east mesa recreation complex and then
you would also
staff can do further research into
neighborhood improvements and general
park improvements is that a
fair statement of your discussion today
and that when we start formulating
uh questions and those
in that order i i've heard a majority of
the counselors say
fire and
affordable housing and then also
continued improvement to these mesa
recreation companies i think it was a
hybrid of number three so
east mesa would be six mil
fire station would be 10 million housing
would be five and then that remained two
million and was that for parks and
recreation improvements
and and um
and and yeah and so i guess get with
sonia where that could go
i don't know if that could also include
um
skate park i have no idea whatever
well you have a skate park going then
you can have the younger group out there
knocking on doors to vote for this
you know i don't know i don't know what
where you want to put that two million
which whatever you need
bring back the council
and see what what you have is that
what do you all think about that
breakdown
um yeah mayor i like it i mean pulling
that sort of two million you
you heard me do that you don't need to
repeat it
but i mean yeah i think um parks and rec
improvements that see a way to figure
out how to make them seem
tangible to me felt like a really good
way forward
and to our our affordable housing
initiatives
people
yeah come come go ahead come up joe
i mean five billion if you can get five
million that's a pretty good start i
think you all were looking for a few
hundred thousand
thank you joe galvon nash i'm a member
of the coalition a couple of things i'd
like to comment about
five would be a great start we prefer
six
but i want to point out something that
is really hard to do which is what
you're struggling with today and this is
based on my own
31 years of working with 20 bond issues
in mill levies
the rubric that you establish is what
helps you decide what to do
because everybody has a specific
thing that's at the top of their
priority you've got to look at it
through the rubric that you have
established in your current rubric you
have nothing about equality
and you don't have anything for
maintaining your existing facilities
like your library so i think those are
improvements that you can make on the
rubric itself but
basing all of your needs against a
rubric with a weighted system
will help you rise to the top what is it
that we really need to have to do first
because you don't have enough money to
do all of these things and yet you have
to maintain commitments of previous
bonds you've got it have safety fire
station you've got to have affordable
housing as a good start so how do you
make sure that you're all doing that in
a way that you can show the public well
this one your walking trail only had one
point for safety your fire station had
it at 10 and vice versa maybe your
rubric includes health and environment
well maybe your walking trail got an
eight and your fire station got a seven
i mean i'm just making up scenarios but
that rubric is key in helping you decide
which one of these is most important
because everybody has their own pick but
you've got to look it from a 30 000 foot
umbrella and my only other comment is
about phasing it's okay to phase
projects your fire station if you see
that it's needed you can phase a fire
station you can do the uh
the uh
uh the architectural work and the the
drawings that could be a phase you could
do phase two as the main core of your
fire station with one bay your phase
three could be we're gonna add two more
bays and we're gonna have the footprint
already done for it so there are ways to
phase even something as important as a
fire station maybe you just wanna do the
drawings and and then phase one and have
one bay and then in four years you're
going to come put two more bays so i
don't think you have to think of it as
just it's all one project right now it
does save you money in the long run
but if you have so many projects in your
community and you only have 23 million
there are opportunities to do parts of
projects and then make them priorities
for your next bond in four years so
thank you for your consideration
joe
was there somebody else no i said thank
you joe was there somebody else that had
okay
so
i just heard from
from councilman cuomo
it really
kind of saw a couple nods i mean what do
you think about that breakdown
can you repeat that breakdown again yeah
it was
six million so looking at number three
spread so it'd be six million instead of
six point five
two million for parks and direct
improvements ten million for fire
station nine five million for affordable
housing initiatives
and zero zero the other two also
thank you mayor and then are we going to
be intentional with our capital outlay
then to make up any of the differences
i'm sorry we're going to be what are we
going to be
intentional when we decide our capital
outlay priorities to make sure that
we're completing
sure i think that would be good idea
okay then i'm okay with it
yes
okay
so ifo i think the direction if they can
come back with with
with that start working on okay if you
can get with sonia as to what that two
million
parks and work improvements would be
okay all right great
so next item is
geo bond quarterly update
so david and tony
and thank you ladies and gentlemen i
appreciate it
good afternoon mayor and council david
cedillo public works director and i'll
be going over the 2018
go bond program update
so first project here under question one
we have park and sports courts
this project is complete
however we are not or we're holding off
on completing finalized
paperwork
we did have
several sites that were visited by the
governor's
commission on disabilities
by a consultant named as hope reed she
is a consultant
for accessibility
consultants for the state she came down
reviewed
several projects
on here and did make recommendations
she did note
that
the governor's commission disabilities
is not a regulatory agency and does not
issue permits or waivers
however
they are also not an administrative
process to assure compliance with the
ada
but
they believe that their recommendations
and opinions do have considerable impact
if any accessibility designs
or features would ever come up in the
future so they do ask that we look at
those recommendations and see if we can
incorporate them into
some of these
improvements
now to give you some examples of of what
those were over at apolloka pickleball
courts they did note and i'm going to
list all of them however they did note
some route issues
with
we do have access to two gates on the
south side but there's a gate on the
north side
it says that they're recommending that
we provide an accessible route over to
that side and that gate
also for hardware some of the gates had
the latches higher than the recommended
height and also recommended that we put
kick plates on both sides since that
gate does swing in both directions
also
they did have
some
recommendations for the parking lot
there at appalachia park
the asphalt at this point is a little
old deteriorated not as smooth and they
asked for some updated striping and sign
improvements
more specifically on the sign
it does have the handicap sign but it
does not have the notation that
violators will be either fined or towed
away
with this report we have sent that over
to the contractor and their design
professional and we are awaiting a
response back from them based on the
design that they
turned in for the project
now
completing this at our last go bond
update we did state that there were
going to be some erosion improvements
over at young park
this is the completed portion of that
erosion project there's the pavilion and
this erosion is between the pavilion and
the pond there at young park
so at this time the contract is for 1.8
million
and we've spent
1.8 sorry 1.82
on the contract we spent 1.8
another question
our project on question one is uh park
the project is approximately 59
complete
the revised completion date from the
contractor has moved out towards later
part of november
at this point in time
if you can see here with the cursor the
shade structures
along the park have been completed along
with the foundations for the restroom
the sidewalks are approximately eighty
percent complete
we do have plumbing in the splash pad
that's ongoing and the new play
equipment which you can see here
has been installed
now as part of this project they are
seeing some material delays that has to
do with the bathroom partitions they are
a composite material it's not a standard
bathroom partition because it will be
exposed to some
elements from the from the environment
outdoors it's not a fully enclosed there
will be space above
and below the doors so they will be
exposed to some of those elements
they are private though they do have
doors and they they will serve those
purposes but they have to resist those
elements
we are seeing delays on that and that's
what's pushing
the schedule out to later november
however with that internal staff has
started looking at options to see if we
have any partitions that we can utilize
in the interim should all the
improvements happen before we receive
those and we can open the park we are
looking at options to see what we can do
to substitute something temporarily that
way if we need to open we could do that
sooner
here you will have your percentages of
both billing and then those
of what was estimated chart to the left
again
is the amount
spent or billed by the contractor with
the time on on the project itself
the graph over to the right is
the expended curvature
during the planning phase your red line
is our actuals as you can see we're
still ahead of that estimated time
east mesa
public rec complex
percentage complete on this project is
now you will notice that the estimated
completion date is extending into
as of february that is based on the
latest
construction schedule from the
contractor
again this are just an estimate
grading of the baseball softball fields
are being completed to their final grade
as mr trevino says as part of this
project we're also grading out for the
future expansions of some of these
sports fields and courts
also you have the grading
of the pickleball quartz that has begun
as well too
now the pictures that you see on the
bottom with the pipe those are not part
of the project but they are the roadway
construction that's leading into the
complex
the picture on the top is the portion of
the grading for those sports fields
again i wanted to reiterate on the
completion date these are estimated
times there is a possibility and the
contractor in the city and the
consultant are both working to expedite
the schedule as much as possible
although we are seeing some delays with
certain materials
so that's why the construction schedule
is bumped out
should construction move out into
fy 20th or
calendar year 2023
our goal is to have the go bond funding
expended before december 30th allowing
that additional arpa funding to complete
the project
again here you have the same
graphs on the left 21 percent has been
billed we have a time of 41
the time
graph on the right you will see that we
are under with the actual billings as to
what was planned out
at this point we have awarded the
contract of 6 million 1.2 nearly 1.3 has
been spent
the last project on question one are the
dog parks
you will notice and if you recall this
project was incorporated with the animal
services center
so the percentages dates construction
estimated completion or for both those
projects combined
so the delays are not happening on
the dog park as you see on this on the
schedule there up at the right with the
little block i'll explain those here in
the next slide for the
animal services center
at this point the project as a whole
is completed out to 67 percent
and estimated completion date is early
december
for the dog park and drink
the earth work is nearly complete
the site concrete has been finished
and they have received furnishings for
the park
burned lake dog park is a little bit
further along they do have the
irrigation system that is nearly
complete and the landscape has been
installed
for the animal services center you're
going to start to see a lot of
improvements very very fast
even some of these pictures that are on
here uh have already been been dated
from the time we did the presentation to
what's actually on site
so
the roadways and parking areas are
nearing completion they have the curb
and gutter they're working on the
subgrade we'll be paving soon
the building shell is complete and if
any of you have passed by and taken a
look at the building they are starting
to install the finish materials for the
exterior
so with that the utilities inside when
nearly complete they have electrical
plumbing hvac and the fire sprinkler
system the drywall is about a third
of the weight done and as you can see
the glazing is ongoing that's the
windows doors on the treatments for the
entryways to the facility
both projects combined at this point 67
percent has been billed 76 percent of
the time has elapsed and again chart on
the right we are below they're planned
but as things start to finish we're
expecting that that creep up and meet up
with the planned costs
fire station number three there's a lot
of information here you saw a lot of
this uh the last time
but some of the things that i do want to
mention here the last thing holding up
the fire station and when i say hold up
is project completion
fire has had
their
co they've moved into the building it's
operational if you recall at the last
update we had access control with the
hardware
we are still having issues we did
receive notice that there's still
another two-month delay on receiving
those things at this point in time
the city the consultant and the
contractor are looking to see if we can
use another vendor to get those items in
and i skipped over the delay for the
animal services center because the delay
on that project is similar to this that
hardware that we're waiting or basically
is going to be installed as part of that
project
we are starting to see those delays now
so to anticipate that
again
as a group the contractor the consultant
and the city have looked at options
let's start ordering temporary
hardware in case we do run into that
time crunch where we're not receiving
those materials and we can actually
place those on there and have the
building operational now once we get the
final
equipment then we can swap that
again i think most of you have seen
how nice
the fire station is here's some
renderings of the finished product there
off of valley
again
we're nearly complete we're waiting to
close that out until once we get that
hardware and we can finish it out if you
can take a look on that graph on the
right we've been paralleling that same
line for a while this is the only item
we need to close out
next we have the walking jogging
bike trails
again 97 percent complete i think you've
heard commentary that parks the trails
are at a point to where the substantial
complete punchlist items are being done
they're being used
and that's the whole intent once we
reach substantial completion so they
could be used but some of those items
that we still have ongoing
we're still doing some cleanup on parts
of the trails over here behind
the las cruces police department that
heads out over to madrid
stout farm defense is complete that is
one of those items that was added on as
part of some of those negotiations with
the permit and also we're looking at a
four foot high fence serving
installation at amador that is ongoing
again punch list items are being
completed as we move forward
there is an estimated completion date of
september 6th
again
making sure that if we have any delays
with any of that fencing material
we can have enough time to complete it
however we're not expecting it to lead
out that far
contract on this project was 2.48
we spent about 2.42
again about 97 complete we have 81
percent of time
and again we're starting to increase and
go above that estimated planned cost
time
here you have the program budget for
each project
as you notice as some of these projects
continue and move forward you will start
to see that they are completed for
example we have some things here
that final cost there for for the fire
station and as we move along on some of
those other projects sports courts and
rehabilitation
and also the walking jogging trails that
are nearing and moving forward
just an overall show of those projects
and the timelines as you can see we have
a couple of projects that are completed
hadley avenue park and sports courts
again based on the comments early in the
presentation we're holding off on
closing documents for for that but you
can see how those project schedules have
have moved out
overall as a program
we've
build
to these projects
about 74
and there's about 85 percent of the time
that has elapsed and that is again
taking into account the 35.6 million
over the four years
and off to the right is our projected
total of what we thought were going to
be spent incrementally on these projects
and you can see that we're
down below again as noted we are having
you'll start to see a lot of those
dollar amounts get closer and closer
especially with the finishes to some of
those larger projects like the east mesa
public rec complex and the animal
services center
and with that i'll go ahead and stand
for any questions
okay thank you stephen
councilman cuomo council flores thanks
mayor
thank you david
um yeah just a couple questions um for
the multi-use trails the fencing and the
cross some of the crossings like
um
hoagland mcclure those were all
part of the original budget right that
those are not things that sort of came
up later that now you're figuring out
how to pay for
mayor councillor ben cuomo the pavement
markings and signs were
the fence was something that was
negotiated as part of the project to
move some of the approvals of the
permits
along the trail systems okay um how much
is being fenced i know the trail that's
right by my house between the one that's
um off of alameda and ghost connects i
think it's the army whole lateral that
connects to the existing multi-use trail
there's a great fence that went up there
it looks really good um how much more of
that do you expect to be going up
i believe those were
the only two two locations that we had
okay wonderful um
the two percent public art piece
um
i know for sure that the firehouse three
has a public our installation do you
include that as part of the timeline or
no
counselor ben come on are you talking
about the
the piece specific to the fire station
no that is something separate separate
but it's paid
so like
funding to pay for that comes out of
this go bond budget
the councilor ben i'm not sure if we
allocated that percentage we did okay
it was not allocated i just got
verification that it was
it was okay thank you
so then you you don't include that in
the timeline then that doesn't have to
be part of
the completion timeline
correct okay
and then just my last request really is
you know as we head into this new cycle
and to the election
and i wish pio is here but i'm sure
they're listening just in terms of how
we continue to tell this you've been
doing a great job but i think just
a more intention intentional push for
how we tell the story of these go coupon
projects especially the ones that might
not be like visibly done until after the
election
um you know really being visual about
like how far they've gotten how close
they are to being used for those
specific ones right that are not but the
ones that are completed i think you know
i was asking
george mentioned
an official opening of the trails like
how are we celebrating some of those
um
completed projects like firehouse we had
a ribbon cutting i just feel like those
things are
important especially as we head into a
new cycle where we're requesting the
voters to you know vote on a new set of
projects
um that they it's important that they
see
the good work that has been done
thank you councilman
and we are looking at some of those
events with some of these other projects
as as we come to completion uh i do want
to mention that our pio office our
communications office did a great video
on the trails that's up on the city's
website so if you haven't seen it please
take an opportunity to do so and we're
looking at and planning to do more of
those things with some of these other
projects as we get near and close to the
completions of those
councillor flores
thank you mr mayor
and thank you again mr cedillo so um
there's nine million that hasn't been
spent on fire station number three but
you said that between now and completion
date that money will be spent
mayor councillor flores no just the
opposite we're getting close we've
billed
out that much and the only item that
we're needing to close out is that small
portion
of
the
hardware itself so how much
money are we talking about then
a counselor float is that final invoice
i'll have to get with staff i don't know
what that equates so
the entire amount amount that was uh for
that project is uh has already been
expended then where did i get that nine
million hasn't been now what you may
what you may see i think there's a
balance of 95 000
95 000
okay
so is there ever ever any money left
over on go bond
allocations
we did have so on question one right
question one had 16.9 million dollars
and it had a slew of projects as you saw
we had park improvements the sports
courts we have unidad so based on those
estimates from there that money wherever
we saved on one project we were able to
shift some of that money to complete
other portions within question one that
has been voted on correct yes thank you
so much mr cedillo thank you mr mayor
any other comments
members of the public
yes i said anything okay well thank you
david tony for the update we appreciate
it very much
thank you mayor thank you councilman
okay i think i think that pretty much
concludes our work session
if there's nothing further entertain a
motion to adjourn
second and beta motion made by
councillor florida second by councillor
beta christine
this is on the motion to adjourn the
work session counselor beta yes
councillor graham yes councillor bancomo
yes councilor koran
yes
councilor flores
what do you want
oh
yes
counselor gandera i vote more money no
yes
there yes
okay it's 3 12 p.m
we're adjourned
have a good day
it's
you ready for the agenda setting meeting
okay this is agenda setting meeting for
july 5th 2022 city council meeting
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